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Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Post by gruturo »

choeger wrote: post #18
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it really isn't, and I've been working with Linux on desktops since I installed slackware from floppy disks from the back of a giant book after having used Sparcstations. Every single implementation is terrible and breaks in weird ways.

I'm running Linux for decades now without problems. Gaming was Windows' last bastion, but SteamOS is looking more and more attractive. So maybe I can get rid of that crapware personally.

Seconding the gaming part (not that it's the last bastion - maybe, maybe not). I bought a Steam Deck about a year ago and was amazed at how well it works while running unmodified Windows games in Linux.

The experience was so good that a few months ago I tried Bazzite (a "flavor" of Fedora Universal Blue aimed at running Steam games easily) at home as a test and despite my nVidia card (which it really didn't support well until recently) it's been smooth sailing. If it matures a bit more, I may ditch Windows completely... and that was already the last Windows machine at home.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Post by skydhash »

cortesoft wrote: post #19
leesalminen wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

n=1 but my mother-in-law has been rocking Mint since late 2019. It does everything she needs and hasn't had a single question about it since 2020. I apply updates when I visit her house every few months. Don't recall any issues with that, either.

Not everyone has a son-in-law tech admin.

Even Apple and Microsoft have to deploy an army of customer support agents to deal with problems, but you expect Linux to be trouble free? I don't expect anyone capable of installing windows to have trouble with Mint, Elementary, or Fedora.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Post by simonw »

ziddoap wrote: post #5
simonw wrote: post #3

“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

> I don’t believe that’s true. Indeed, from the article: > Once shipped, Recall will also be something Windows users can disable but not entirely remove.

That’s why I called out the headline - it’s a truth universally acknowledged (or should be) that most people won’t read beyond the headline.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Post by ziddoap »

simonw wrote: post #93
ziddoap wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t believe that’s true. Indeed, from the article: > Once shipped, Recall will also be something Windows users can disable but not entirely remove.

That’s why I called out the headline - it’s a truth universally acknowledged (or should be) that most people won’t read beyond the headline.

>it’s a truth universally acknowledged (or should be) that most people won’t read beyond the headline.

Sure. That's why I put the relevant part in my comment for the people that skip the article.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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mythz wrote: post #59

Which we have to thank for Linux Desktop market share hitting all time highs this year. My decision to switch to a Fedora Desktop earlier this year after 25 years of Windows gets reinforced with every new "Windows Feature". It's been a refreshing change, native versions of JetBrains IDEs, Docker and most Daily Apps (e.g. VS Code, Discord, GitHub Desktop, Obsidian, etc) were available on Day 1, surprisingly all my fla…

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Post by robrtsql »

onemoresoop wrote: post #87
robrtsql wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the question about Linux in general or about Pop_OS specifically? I've used it--the differences are going to increase once their new desktop environment releases, but right now it's comparable to Ubuntu except with some nice-to-haves (proprietary NVIDIA drivers are installed automatically, no software is delivered via Canonical's 'snaps' which are almost universally hated). I enjoyed it, but in my opinion, popular…

>t's great, unless you need to run, say, Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Excel, or Fortnite. There's no way to use Wine for Microsoft Excel?

I've never tried it, but my impression from other people is that it's unreliable and maybe doesn't even work at all for the newest versions of Microsoft Office.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Post by micah94 »

jklinger410 wrote: post #23
fidotron wrote: post #9

Microsoft are conducting a massive experiment to find just how badly you can treat locked in consumers before they switch. They are plumbing the depths so well it is legitimately hard to imagine what new madness they could come up with next.

This happened recently with price gouging disguised as inflation as well. It seems to be a common business tactic for corps at over over a certain size.

Inflation is (was originally) the increase in monetary supply (when the Fed buys treasuries and prints money). That absolutely happened big time. And we're no where near back to 2020 levels. See: https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttren...

Notice how the level of inflation kind of matches the balance sheet curve if you assume the peak was that 9% (~June 2022)...now we're back down to ~3%.

But the Fed is talking about lowering rates, not increasing them further (because we're just magically on some 'glide path' back down to 2% I guess). I suppose you'll call that price gouging as well when inflation flares up again? Some of what's being "disguised" here are the definitions of words.

Just saying there are other factors at play. It's not all about the big bad corporations.

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