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Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Weird outrage bait over a feature that doesn't have to be used and is off by default. I don't know why people are losing their minds over this other than some pavlovian Microsoft response.

Apparently it's only disabled by default because of "security concerns". That sounds a lot like after those "concerns" are fixed (or rather "no longer in the news"), it will be enabled by default.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

#23
post #9

Microsoft are conducting a massive experiment to find just how badly you can treat locked in consumers before they switch. They are plumbing the depths so well it is legitimately hard to imagine what new madness they could come up with next.

This happened recently with price gouging disguised as inflation as well.

It seems to be a common business tactic for corps at over over a certain size.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

#24

Weird outrage bait over a feature that doesn't have to be used and is off by default. I don't know why people are losing their minds over this other than some pavlovian Microsoft response.

The same was true for signing in to Windows with a Microsoft account. Like my sibling said, this happened before.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's today. I encourage you to actually try it rather than repeat an old trope.

No, it really isn't, and I've been working with Linux on desktops since I installed slackware from floppy disks from the back of a giant book after having used Sparcstations. Every single implementation is terrible and breaks in weird ways.

Everything is terrible and breaks in weird ways, including Windows. It has so many weird bugs and broken behavior that people just kind of ignore because it's "default".

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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post #3

“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

AFAICT it's only going to work on Copilot+ branded systems anyway, and currently only the Snapdragon ARM machines have a beefy enough NPU to meet that criteria. Both Intel and AMD are working towards getting that certification with their upcoming CPUs though.

As of yesterday, the latest chips from AMD (stryx point) and Intel (lunar lake) are considered Copilot+ ready

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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post #10
post #3

“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

AFAICT it's only going to work on Copilot+ branded systems anyway, and currently only the Snapdragon ARM machines have a beefy enough NPU to meet that criteria. Both Intel and AMD are working towards getting that certification with their upcoming CPUs though.

People should be already upset even if things planned now will start working as expected by Big corp in 5-10 years.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it really isn't, and I've been working with Linux on desktops since I installed slackware from floppy disks from the back of a giant book after having used Sparcstations. Every single implementation is terrible and breaks in weird ways.

I'm running Linux for decades now without problems. Gaming was Windows' last bastion, but SteamOS is looking more and more attractive. So maybe I can get rid of that crapware personally.

>Gaming was Windows' last bastion

Not by a long shot. Windows-only enterprise software (QuickBooks, SolidWorks, etc.) is the last bastion, and that bastion is going to hold for a long time.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

agree. i don't recall MS saying that it could be uninstalled, only that it could be disabled.

Re: Microsoft confirms that Windows 11 Recall AI is not optional

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post #3

“Can’t be uninstalled” and “not optional” aren’t the same thing. This headline implies users won’t be able to prevent recall from taking screenshots of what they are doing. I don’t believe that’s true.

> I don’t believe that’s true. Indeed, from the article: > Once shipped, Recall will also be something Windows users can disable but not entirely remove.

Sadly Microsoft has a history of enabling "features" after updates, even though the user has disabled it before. Of course only to "improve the experience".
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