Everyone super excited. :) In two years everyone has been laid off. ;)
Two years is good for me. So long as my tenant isn't also laid off and the stock market doesn't crash as a result of this… or at least everyone gets UBI.
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#42Wow. I typed in: Create a page that has a snake game clone that you can control with the keyboard. Within I did all of this within ~3 minutes. It works, and while it is very suboptimal (it plays Snake using basic React state code, not ideal lol), the speed of this and how surprised I am reminds me of the first time I talked with ChatGPT 2 years ago. Amazing work. I don't know if these are shareable, but this is the l…
Just a warning about testing with snake/tetris - they're the most reimplemented games in the world and there's so many examples those models learned from. For a more realistic test, it's better to try something novel.
Mm, even so Tetris is one of my tests, and one of the models small enough to run locally on my machine… started off badly, then suddenly switched from "Tetris as a web app" to "train an ML model in python".
So I think it's a valid quick sanity test, like fizz-buzz for human devs.
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#43Everyone super excited. :) In two years everyone has been laid off. ;)
We systematically get posts and blogs and real-world experience showing that software development is actually about maintenance.
Yesterday we had an article about so many half-arsed software in maintenance mode that the world would be ending soon, crumbling under the weight of not-maintained enough software.
So far I've seen LLMs (I pay for GTP 4o btw) very good at producing boilerplate code. Does it help? Heck, yup.
Does it produce even more code needing ever more maintenance? You bet so.
At this rate it looks like we're going to need way more software developers, not less.
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#44Well done. Very nice. I really like the UI/UX, and admit that I am a bit jealous (as langcss.com creator) of how polished it is. I like the way it tells you what files it is working on but doesn't stick a full IDE in your face. I am not worried this year about AI taking my job - it couldn't manage to capture the camera for my example app. It did get the permissons. Still this isn't useless - it can be easier to debug…
> especially once mistakes are limited so you don't need an Engineer to come fix it
The main issue here is "are there mistakes, in the first place?".
Maybe people will become tolerant to machine mistakes. Engineers make mistakes, but it's expected. And the kinds of mistakes engineers make are human.
Machines make mistakes that look silly. The kind of mistake "an engineer wouldn't make".
So these apps will probably tackle an unserved demand (things not valuable to justify an engineer). Anything else I predict will continue to use engineers - more productive with AI support.
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#45I see a comment saying it used "basic React state code". So its output is based on React as well as Supabase? Or might it uses different base technologies depending on what it thinks is best for what it's building?
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#46Well done. Very nice. I really like the UI/UX, and admit that I am a bit jealous (as langcss.com creator) of how polished it is. I like the way it tells you what files it is working on but doesn't stick a full IDE in your face. I am not worried this year about AI taking my job - it couldn't manage to capture the camera for my example app. It did get the permissons. Still this isn't useless - it can be easier to debug…
Thanks for the kind words!
Agree on the timelines here. This is currently a tool.
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#48love it. works great out of the box
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#49How do I get access?
So we opened up our waitlist so it's open right now: https://gptengineer.app (Might have to readd the waitlist though if we get too much traffic.)
Having fun so far but given the advice to ask for small incremental changes the 10 runs per day is not enough. Even the Pro level at 100/day for $19/month is too low if I really want to play with it.
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#50Where do you see this compared with Cursor or Copilot?