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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Apple newton did it. They required you to stroke your letters in a pedantically correct way because it used the stroke path, not the end pixel appearance, to detect letters.

I genuinely liked the Palm Graffiti. It took a couple of days of playing Giraffe to get used to it, but afterwards the speed and precision was quite decent. Of course it's nothing compared to modern swipe keyboards but still.

Agreed, I often miss Palm's Graffiti input, I don't remember it well at all at this point I think I tried a similar input on android and went back to gesture keyboard. Of course, I kind of miss even developing for Palm as well, which was far simpler an experience than what Android and iOS are today.

Then again, rose colored glasses and all.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Would be interesting to hear from someone who has compared this and https://daylightcomputer.com/

I have both. Daylight is _amazing_ for reading and marking up technical PDFs and books. Also good for marking up web pages.

Remarkable screen and pen latency is much better.

I hope they both succeed. Both awesome. I'll probably get this new Remarkable as well.

(That being said, I use my pen and paper bullet journal ($30) more than both of these combined).

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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looks great and, at the same time, it seems they didn't address the single biggest problem I (and many, many, many other people) reported over the years :-( I even wrote about it here on HN in 2021 and nothing has really changed on that front. I have a Remarkable 2 and the device is great, software is improving as well and taking notes is a joy BUT finding those notes later on is next to impossible. OCR is very bad a…

I'm absolutely fine without OCR and searching if they can give us working links. All I want to do is to be able to doodle a star on a page, or a word, and have that work as a link off to another page in another notebook. That's all you need for a zettelkasten-style system to hold your notes in but I've not seen anyone do it.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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DC has even worse contrast than e-ink.

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It's not really a scam but rather a technology that's still in its infancy. I think of it more like the Palm Treo and Blackberry: they're not great but hopefully we're progressing towards the iPhone. I wouldn't buy one at the moment, though.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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I own a kindle, but I find it’s often just easier and better to use my iPad Pro and the upside of having a fully functional device outweighs the fancy display tech. I think it’s important to consider if eink so great that it justifies such an expensive device over a more conventional tablet. Although, I do kind of want one.

i have a kindle. I use it for reading books. Its only function (to me) is reading books.

I have an ipad pro (2018). It's functions are 1) watching youtube 2) drawing/painting on procreate and 3) using some music apps like AUM and various synths 4) acting a kitchen display for recipes and 5) general note taking if I need to take notes that involve drawing or diagrams.

I have a phone. I read on my phone because its the device I have with me most.

I look at this Remarkable and

1) It's much more money than either my kindle or even my phone cost.

2) I can't install the kindle app on it, for it to replace my kindle

3) It's not small or convenient enough to replace the kindle or phone

4) It's not good enough for drawing to replace the ipad

5) I don't understand why it doesn't interoperate with a lot of existing stuff. If I want to use my wifi to backup the remarkable to my onedrive, it doesn't sound like that's possible, which is possible on my phone and ipad, and isn't necessary on kindle since everything is already dealt with by amazon whispersync.

Not for me either.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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The main issue I had with my Remarkable 1 was that I couldn't quickly scroll through pages of e-books. If I was looking for something specific in the pages, an ipad allows me to swipe across rapidly. Remarkable was this tedious repeated button press, waiting each time for the screen to refresh. Had to go back to ipad although I loved the device.

Which e-ink devices have had fast enough page scrolling for you?

Both Kobo and Kindle devices allow you to fast scroll page thumbnails, which helps work around the refresh limitations of e-ink. Something like that is still missing from RM's software. You basically have to switch to multi-page view and then scroll that if you want to go quickly through a document.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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You can easily sync your handwritten notes to your computer and phone for free using the app. Once synced, you can back them up with your preferred method. The cloud service is designed to be a convenient, set-it-and-forget-it option. Asking for a perpetual cloud synchronization at no cost is bold.

An open API to replicate and automate the app functionality for backup locally is not incredibly much to ask for. Nobody is asking for a free sync server.

Bingo, Boox support WebDAV or FTP file sync and it's a breeze to use. It pains me how much of modern tech doesn't support the very standards half of it's built on. All to moat users into their domain.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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It's funny, I would have thought that OCR on handwriting on a tablet would be great, because they can capture each individual stroke, rather than just the final pixelated product. In other words, because you're witnessing it being written, there's a lot more information. In fact I wouldn't even call it OCR because it's not "optical", but rather "stroke" -- SCR? Is that something that exists? Is that what the tablet t…

Apple newton did it. They required you to stroke your letters in a pedantically correct way because it used the stroke path, not the end pixel appearance, to detect letters.

That got a lot better w/ v2 of Rosetta (also known as Calligrapher).

Recognition for me was about perfect, and I took notes on my Newton MessagePad using a 3rd party outliner in almost all of my college classes (art history was the exception --- used the main Newton app for that, along w/ little sketches and reference folios to the text which I then faxed to the fax machine in the Art Department's office for a student who had a learning disability which prevented his taking notes --- turns out that he then shared them with everyone in the dorms, which I found out about after the course was over when the professor noted how much better everyone's grades were that year and how she had found out when asking other students.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

#150

I've been a remarkable user for several years and have spent hundreds of hours I'm sure in front of the RM1 and RM2. I love the increased storage (8GB goes fast with a bunch of scanned PDFs) and the addition of color (so long as it's as readable in sunlight). However I'm stuck on the old 2.x fw versions because I don't like the infinite page thing they added, so I won't be upgrading. Also it'd be cool if they offered…

I haven't looked at the software stack in a while. Has RM gone more open source yet? I didn't like how they were pivoting to toward the SaaS subscription thing. I'd much rather pay a little more up front for a fully open device then cheaper upfront but with an annoying subscription plus closed source.
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