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Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

lumb63 wrote: post #122
hyeonwho4 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case the US Congress has delegated to the FTC the power to regulate competition in interstate trade and markets. The relevant law is as follows: " (1) Unfair methods of competition in or affecting commerce, and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce, are hereby declared unlawful. (2) The Commission is hereby empowered and directed to prevent persons, partnerships, or corporations, exce…

The term “unfair” is extremely vague, and now (as it probably should be, IMO), laws are interpreted by the judiciary. If Congress wants a specific practice banned, then they can make a law to do so, rather than allowing unelected career bureaucrats to interpret the law as they see fit.

It seems you are using the term career bureaucrat as a pejorative. Often, they have far more expertise in the subject than career politicians.

In any event, large decisions like this are made by political appointees appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.

With Chevron overturned, we are now allowing unelected career judges interpreting policy however they see fit. If we were still in a world where precedent mattered and judges set their personal beliefs about policy aside and instead neutrally interpreted conformance with the law, sure. But as we now are packing the judiciary with partisans, it seems we've just substitutef one bad for another.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by amalcon »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #97
defrost wrote: post #95

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That's simply untrue. You don't speak for "all Americans". A number of Americans (>1) see their imprisonment as a modern form of slavery, one that is explicitly allowed by the US Constitution: The U.S. Constitution bans slavery except as punishment for a crime ... In Texas, some prison farms are located on the same land as former slave plantations. It's "meaningful" in that they feel (with good justification) that th…

People loosing their liberties because of breaking the law — as determined by due process — is not slavery. They may feel enslaved, but again they cannot feel enslaved in any meaningful sense of the word because they are not enslaved in any meaningful sense of the word. https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/the-my...

The 13th amendment to the U.S. Constitution seems to facially disagree with you. It specifically permits criminal punishment as an exception to its ban on "slavery [or] involuntary servitude".

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #120
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #117

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I’m not sold on this narrative. Which Republican cities are you comparing to?

The 10 most violent cities in the US are either democrat or independent controlled: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53991722

The largest cities have the most crime, because they have the most people. And most large cities have Democratic mayors.

You could break it down per capita instead, which shows that urban area have the highest violent crime rates, and rural areas have the highest property crime rates.

I haven’t been able to find a comparison of cities with Democratic mayors vs cities with Republican mayors.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by tzs »

lumb63 wrote: post #122
hyeonwho4 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case the US Congress has delegated to the FTC the power to regulate competition in interstate trade and markets. The relevant law is as follows: " (1) Unfair methods of competition in or affecting commerce, and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce, are hereby declared unlawful. (2) The Commission is hereby empowered and directed to prevent persons, partnerships, or corporations, exce…

The term “unfair” is extremely vague, and now (as it probably should be, IMO), laws are interpreted by the judiciary. If Congress wants a specific practice banned, then they can make a law to do so, rather than allowing unelected career bureaucrats to interpret the law as they see fit.

> If Congress wants a specific practice banned, then they can make a law to do so, rather than allowing unelected career bureaucrats to interpret the law as they see fit.

As opposed to unelected judges who, unlike the bureaucrats, have lifetime appointments, almost no political oversight, and are very difficult to remove.

The heads of federal agencies are appointed by the President and must be confirmed by the Senate and serve limited terms.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #104
05 wrote: post #102

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> The Heritage Foundation, sometimes referred to simply as "Heritage", is an activist American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C. Yeah, thanks for that unbiased source.

Bias does not change facts. There is no better time and place to be a criminal in the US than today. Criminals are being coddled, which is why most Democrat cities are so crime-ridden.

While I dislike your arguments, I have to agree with their correctness. Most of them.

Having had relatives had relatives in jail, they are not coddled. Yes, it is better than the past, but in all ways jail, let alone prison, is much worse than being on the outside.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by matwood »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #120
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #117

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I’m not sold on this narrative. Which Republican cities are you comparing to?

The 10 most violent cities in the US are either democrat or independent controlled: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53991722

While not a straight line down, all crime has been falling since the 90s. People's perception differs from reality.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-...

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by flanked-evergl »

razakel wrote: post #127
flanked-evergl wrote: post #126

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No it's not. There is no physical or legal coercion, i.e. no force, i.e. not forced.

What happens if you refuse?

They may lose privileges and good time credits, and it may impact their parole. They do not lose rights as one may happen when one is convicted of a crime.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by flanked-evergl »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #133
flanked-evergl wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 10 most violent cities in the US are either democrat or independent controlled: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53991722

The largest cities have the most crime, because they have the most people. And most large cities have Democratic mayors. You could break it down per capita instead, which shows that urban area have the highest violent crime rates, and rural areas have the highest property crime rates. I haven’t been able to find a comparison of cities with Democratic mayors vs cities with Republican mayors.

> You could break it down per capita instead,

The source provided does break it down per capita, and when done so, the 10 most violent cities in the US, measured per capita, are either democrat (9) or independent (1) controlled.

Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by [deleted] »

hyeonwho4 wrote: post #78
daft_pink wrote: post #71

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I don’t think this is really an argument for or against non-complete agreements in the United States. It’s basic United States separation of powers. If Congress passed a law eliminating or banning non-completes, then it would be legal. As an asdie, it seems that the Biden administration is positioning itself to overstep it’s authority with things it feels would be popular with specific voting blocks that will obvious…

In this case the US Congress has delegated to the FTC the power to regulate competition in interstate trade and markets. The relevant law is as follows: " (1) Unfair methods of competition in or affecting commerce, and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce, are hereby declared unlawful. (2) The Commission is hereby empowered and directed to prevent persons, partnerships, or corporations, exce…

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Re: Judge stops FTC from enforcing ban on non-compete agreements

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Post by flanked-evergl »

vundercind wrote: post #129
flanked-evergl wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 10 most violent cities in the US are either democrat or independent controlled: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53991722

1) In part because most cities of any size are run by democrats. 2) “over 100,000 population”. This is the factor that prevents these from mostly being “red”. I assume this is because smaller cities and large towns are both more likely than large cities to be run by Republicans, and also more likely to have bad economies, which (the latter) is a pretty good predictor of crime. 3) The second graph with per-capita gets…

Republican state government is not preventing Democrat cities from enforcing the law in red states. My point is that criminals are too coddled, not that they are not coddled enough. Preventing democrat cities from coddling criminals even further does not somehow make them less coddled. The Democrat cities coddle criminals as much as they legally can.
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