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Americans' love affair with big cars is killing them

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Re: Americans' love affair with big cars is killing them

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I can’t bro, it’s not worth my time. Look it up.

I don’t even know what to look up.

You could start with a list of things the rest of the world would need in order to emulate Tokyo, which basically means turning the entire world into a walk-able city only involving the temperate band hf the planet. If you would like me to hold your hand though generating this list of material and labor costs, I'm not going to do that. If you want me to put on a PM hat and give you a sample schedule and estimated costs, I'm not going to do that either.

If you can't even figure out how to look up _anything_ about how to implement your plan, how the fuck do you expect it to ever become a reality?

This is nonsense. It will not happen.

Re: Americans' love affair with big cars is killing them

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If only we had other technologies for moving heavy things without using concrete roads

The USA already moves a higher percentage of freight by rail than almost any other country. But rail could never work for time-sensitive loads or last mile delivery.

Perhaps they could make the rail lines and machinery smaller. One might even consider such rail to be "light", in comparison.

I'm sure it's pure coincidence that many cities already have rail lines going down roads in city centers. They probably just built the city around a historical freight line, and haven't bothered to remove it.

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As someone who regularly drives on German highways, including the Autobahn, I may ad my two cents. While German drivers are often praised for their discipline, the reality I've observed, especially in unlimited speed sections of the Autobahn, can be quite different. Many drivers there seem to focus primarily on their perceived right to drive as fast as they want, often creating dangerous situations for others who may…

> the reality I've observed, especially in unlimited speed sections of the Autobahn, can be quite different. My experience is that it depends on where in Germany you are. I drove from France to Norway this week so I went through northern Germany and the autobahn was great, where it wasn't restricted because of the more or less permanent roadworks that is. I drive on Tesla Autopilot when I can which has a maximum spee…

I fully agree on that, I'm mostly travelling through the south of germany, think Salzburg to Kufstein, and that route is terrible, including the pavement.

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This could simply be avoided by introducing a similar model to how it is handled over here in europe, with different vehicle classes and weight limits, a higher weight class requires a more advanced drivers license. Certain utlilty vehicles 3.5t and over can't be driven here without a D class license, which costs extra, requires extra training and the tax and fee structure for these vehicles is drastically different.…

There are already different classes of licensing in the US for larger industrial vehicles.

> for larger industrial vehicles See, thats where the difference is, here 3.5t is considered a bigger vehicle with few exceptions. Most campers are close or overweight for the normal B class license.

Re: Americans' love affair with big cars is killing them

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Is that necessarily true? There are no smaller vehicles with overbuilt frames, more airbags, and better test rating? I look under the hood of "large" trucks and sometimes it's a lot of empty space. It looks like a paper tiger- it's fake big. I've also read somewhere that taller vehicles have a higher chance of rollover which could make them less safe than advertised.

That's fair. However, if my car is twice heavier and larger than yours, even if your car is well engineered and has great safety features and rating, you're likely to end up worse than me in an accident. Even if my chances of rollover are higher than yours.

Why is your life more worth than mine?

Re: Americans' love affair with big cars is killing them

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I don’t even know what to look up.

You could start with a list of things the rest of the world would need in order to emulate Tokyo, which basically means turning the entire world into a walk-able city only involving the temperate band hf the planet. If you would like me to hold your hand though generating this list of material and labor costs, I'm not going to do that. If you want me to put on a PM hat and give you a sample schedule and estimated cos…

You seem to not understand the point of this conversation. You admit Tokyo is a walkable city. And you think it’s impossible to convert existing infrastructure to be like Tokyo. The point of this conversation is existing infra is the way it is because of various influences and choices, some of which can be called “car culture.”

Car culture is not a foregone conclusion. Claiming 100% of the world has to be converted to Tokyo and if that is not possible then we should give up is hilarious. What an illogical, sad and pitiful argument/attitude. Cities are being changed every day, and those ongoing investments can be made to make cities more car dependent or not.

Not to mention there are A Lot of cities more dependent on cars than lots of other cities many with nearly identical climates. Tokyo isn’t the only one lol. It’s not some magical unicorn.

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First off, you're exaggerating. There is no place on earth that averages 40C for 3 months. Second,I live in Tokyo, where the summer has been miserable with average temperatures of 32C, with regular highs of 36+ with 80% humidity. And yet I walked and biked everywhere and was just fine, and that's true for most of the 40M people that live here as well. Third, it sounds like you live in a place that's not suitable for…

I didn't say average, and the highs are higher for many days. It sounds like you've never been in extreme heat, there's a huge difference between 89F and 110+F. More people are moving here than are leaving.

Why would I assume you meant the maximum when you didn't specify?

And would you mind not being a condescending prick? If you had taken a second to google you would know Tokyo had highs of 40+ this summer.

Sounds like you're just trying to make excuses for your awful city.

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