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Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by thefz »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #21

Literally no one wants this “feature”. Microsoft has lost their collective minds.

We can discuss how this has been implemented all day (and probably agree), but decades in IT have taught me that people use computers differently, especially now that the level of literacy needed to operate one is almost zero.

I am good with terminal, browser, NP++ and few other programs, while some people don't even know the existence of a file system hierarchy, or want to touch things to interact with them instead of typing.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by t0bia_s »

langsoul-com wrote: post #99

Currently using Ubuntu as my main driver, replaced Windows. I wouldn't really say the user experience is as good as Windows. Apps hang more often, steam freezes and restarts more. Games crash more often. All problems I wouldn't have on windows. Even though Linux has gotten really far, I wouldn't be using it if windows wasn't so shit now.

Try Fedora. Its most polished linux experience for me. Even though I cannot use it as main driver because of Adobe.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by javcasas »

arp242 wrote: post #148
sfjailbird wrote: post #144

Doesn't this break EU law, by collecting personal information without consent, and without offering the option to have it removed? I would be surprised if this stands up in courts in the EU.

It's disabled by default.

For now.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by rozab »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #86
ChicagoDave wrote: post #21

Literally no one wants this “feature”. Microsoft has lost their collective minds.

I think it's a very cool idea. I wish Linux had this. To be fair I also presently have several hundred tabs open and never delete anything.

To be fair neither Windows nor AI need to have anything to do with it, there's someone in the thread who streams their monitor to a NAS and runs it through OCR

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by javcasas »

wmf wrote: post #68
hnpolicestate wrote: post #61

Will Microsoft sell your 'Recall' information to 3rd-parties?

No, but nobody believes it.

> Do you want to allow Microsoft to sell your data to third parties?

> Yes

> Ask me again in 30 minutes

You haven't been paying attention to Windows lately, haven't you?

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by tomrod »

grishka wrote: post #40
RachelF wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more complex than that now. For the last 4 years, Microsoft has a "Medic Service" that will put Windows update back if you just move those files.

That service is also a file, iirc it's among those wua* ones. Everything is a file!

I found a great file that allows me to install Linux!

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by grishka »

tomrod wrote: post #186
grishka wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That service is also a file, iirc it's among those wua* ones. Everything is a file!

I found a great file that allows me to install Linux!

The only problem with that is that then you have to use Linux.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by nj5rq »

langsoul-com wrote: post #99

Currently using Ubuntu as my main driver, replaced Windows. I wouldn't really say the user experience is as good as Windows. Apps hang more often, steam freezes and restarts more. Games crash more often. All problems I wouldn't have on windows. Even though Linux has gotten really far, I wouldn't be using it if windows wasn't so shit now.

Ubuntu is supposed to be the most intuitive or friendly distro (very arguable), but it's a shame how bad and bloated it is.

I have been using steam in arch-based distros for a very long time and I have had no issues at all running most Windows games (see https://protondb.com). As someone else mentioned, the only real issue might be anti-cheats in competitive games.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by 486sx33 »

euroderf wrote: post #133
cmcaleer wrote: post #95

Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

Windows+Micro$oft still seems to be the default for big installations, like tens of machines on a LAN needing centralized authentication. What is the state of Mac/Apple for this ? Can it be done ? Can MS be banished from the premises, perhaps traded for a Linux server here & there ?

I think Mac’s would be totally fine, albeit a higher hardware cost. You might actually find Mac’s to be better. My macOS machines have far better (continuous) uptime than windows.

I’d say there is a stigma around Linux in North America, if I went into a shop and every machine was running Linux I’d either think they are dirt poor or some kind of underground Russian secret service operation. It just isn’t seen.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by giancarlostoro »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #120
giancarlostoro wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't trust them not to turn it back on (as happens to all sorts of features after a Windows update), and continue to install garbage I don't need or even wanted. I'm happy on POP_OS! and I'm not going back. Been on POP since January 18th of this year. I gave up on Microsoft when I realized Windows Defender will send over files to Microsoft it thinks are suspicious, and there's 0 audit trail for the files. For all…

I was with you right up until you said you didn't like Windows Defender sending a file to Microsoft. I want my file system to have metadata that (along with things like name, last edited, checksum, etc...) puts all files into one of three buckets: 1. Pre-installed 2. User generated 3. External sources (e.g. Downloaded, transferred from network, transferred from device) If a file from an external source becomes execut…

> If a file from an external source becomes executable then starts affecting my pre-installed/user-generated files and it's checksum isn't already on microsoft's whitelist, then I want microsoft to quarantine that executable and look inside it to figure out what the heck it's doing to my computer.

Yes, but I want an audit log of it all. I doubt they'll ever add this, so I'm not going to blindly trust Microsoft. In my case most files are probably not whitelisted anyway. I download some really huge files sometimes, do those get uploaded too? Do they throttle the uploads and if they don't are they just killing my personal network bandwidth? Like there's too many questions that set me off.

I'm happy with my choice.

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