Are those emails legit?
Yes, the source of these emails are court discovery proceedings, related to the many court cases Microsoft has been involved in. They're all public record, so they can safely be reproduced online.
Bill Gates tries to install Movie Maker
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#32Was it really that bad back in 2003?
It really was. XP gets looked back on with rose-tinted glasses but only because successive iterations of windows have been so extraordinarily bad. The Microsoft.com website was so bad it was almost comical. To Microsoft's credit, they have made some improvements in some areas but the same old DNA is on display when you use e.g. Teams. Microsoft is just plain bad at Product.
Their web stuff is still awful.
Trying to sign in to email? Let me take 10 seconds redirecting you across 5 different domains
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
… and once that was done, it started harassing me to install Windows 11. “Harassing” like full screen takeovers with buried “no thanks” buttons and secondary “ARE YOU SURE?” screens once I found and clicked the close buttons. That hasn’t stopped.
This is why I go with Fedora Silverblue for my elderly family. When they had Windows installed, most support calls was about crazy and confusing full screen pop ups and forced upgrades. With a stable disto, everything just works and keeps up to date without bothering the user. Why anyone uses Windows today is a mystery to me. My guess is force of habit and lock-inn effects.
Online games don’t run on Proton.
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#34It’s a remarkably detailed and patient message. Can’t fathom getting such a message from my leadership
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#35I always thought Gates was feared by his employees. Unless I'm missing something, all the following emails passed the buck with no one saying, "The boss is pissed and we had better fix the mess."
I found it hilarious one of the execs did not know what owning a product means: > I don't know what it means to "own website issues"
He knows exactly what owning a product means. His subtext is "if you're going to talk about owning something, please add specificity to your claim."
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#36Does anyone know if office is coming to Linux. That's our main lockin currently.
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#37I still wish I had pirated software several times a year. Last it was Garmin stuff. I will never buy anything Garmin ever again. It was a Kafkaesque experience. The list of banned companies is starting to get prohibitively long.
Oh yeah Garmin software was absolutely amongst the worst I have ever tried to use. Complete trash. Awful software for the simplest of tasks like loading maps onto your GPS.
My first experience was the purchase. There was a choice between downloading or getting an SD card.
I had a bunch of SD cards so I thought a download would be fine. Except it wasn't a download. It was "download our windows/Mac os exclusive software that refuses to run in a VM and use that to flash an SD card".
I went back and read through the site. Nowhere did it say "requires xyz". And since it was sold as a subscription I could not get a refund. Next season I will sell my plotter and buy a brand that respects it's customers.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found it hilarious one of the execs did not know what owning a product means: > I don't know what it means to "own website issues"
I didn’t interpret that sentence like you did. I think he was wary of what it actually meant to the product. For instance, imagine we have a problem with the authentication on an internal component, and then, someone from quality control states “don’t worry, I’ll own the authentication issues”. What does that even mean? Is QA going to solve the issue? How? Are you going to oversee the way other team(s) solve the issu…
> Is QA going to solve the issue? How? Are you going to oversee the way other team(s) solve the issue?
Owning an issue means you're the one that answers those questions.
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#39Same for start menu. First they tried tiles. Then they tried to remove it. Then they tried to add websearch. Mine now so bad that if I hit windows key and start typing it picks up from about the 4th character types and ofc Then searches for the wrong thing. Literally unusable for the most basic of task for an OS - launching programs If it wasn’t for a couple of windows only usage cases I’d have dumped this so fast
Join us, become one of the linux desktop people.
Will give it another go. Quite comfortable with server/cli flavour linux, but desktop has always been a challenge
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#40I always thought Gates was feared by his employees. Unless I'm missing something, all the following emails passed the buck with no one saying, "The boss is pissed and we had better fix the mess."
I found it hilarious one of the execs did not know what owning a product means: > I don't know what it means to "own website issues"
He knew exactly what he was saying - he didn't want to "OWN" the problem nor the solution....he was abdicating is sole responsibility for the mess... and rightfully so as its a cross organizational issues (based on the thread). This is a great example of what folks should expect when hiring/working at a large corp. So much time and effort is spent in this EXACT manner. Its amazing that anything does get done, in some respect. Its also why I found the startup experience amazing because there's no time/place for this, but if they succeed, then all end up in this type of environment / scenario.
AND, I can vouch for the pain and suffering that "Marketing" can place on tech teams and end product fails.... heck MS , to this day, cloud "EXPERTS" can not explain their pricing model, or just chose not to.