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Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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If only there was an alternative to Windows, then I’d happily switch. Currently, Linux Mint seem like the closest alternative, but I wish there was a more modern ui

DeepinOS had to best experience so far but there is something with it that makes me not want to fully transition to it, Idk what it is

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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"National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks." Windows is "military-grade". That's a laugh. In case of doubt I am referring to the US practice of marketing certain products as "military-grade". Perhaps to suggest something like, "If it is good enough for the military, then it is surely good enough for the civilian."

>Windows is "military-grade". That's a laugh. On the inside, the term of art for things like Windows is COTS - Commercial, Off-the-shelf.

Yeah, the "military-grade" products I am comparing to are manufactured according to a specification provided by the customer, not COTS. Bad comparison.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Using Chromebooks and iPhones is supposed to make people less tolerant of vendor overreach?? . The big shortcoming that windows had was fixed with powershell and windows terminal. Now it's just got mildly annoying UI defaults. The big things it has are: * Outlook and the rest of Office * Visual Studio * Active Directory * Tons and tons of industry-specific applications

At least they won't get owned by ransomware with a Chromebook and iPhone.

The ability to freely run software has its risks, no doubt. But switching to what are effectively terminals centrally managed by big corporations sounds quite dystopian to me.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Using Chromebooks and iPhones is supposed to make people less tolerant of vendor overreach?? . The big shortcoming that windows had was fixed with powershell and windows terminal. Now it's just got mildly annoying UI defaults. The big things it has are: * Outlook and the rest of Office * Visual Studio * Active Directory * Tons and tons of industry-specific applications

At least they won't get owned by ransomware with a Chromebook and iPhone.

They actually do, surprisingly.

Lots of people got tricked on their iPhones after installing ransomware apps on them from the app store.

They couldn't figure out how to exit the app (you had to open the shutdown dialog via long press on power) and went on to pay after getting a scary warning/full screen hijack

Been a while since I read about this though, not sure how frequently it happens currently

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

I'd say yes. Especially since cross platform support is becoming more of an expectation and the tooling is starting to enable that out of the box. It's definitely something I consider when picking a language and a framework. That's genuinely one of the biggest hurdles here, software availability. Picking Linux, Mac, Android and Chrome is getting a lot more common

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Maybe they will main two Windows installation images, with and without?

Undoubtedly the EU will eventually require this

Several years to implement (unless a 'save the children' clause can be inserted). Several more years of litigation. Tiny fine. Profit.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

Well, advising for Apple against vendor overreach is downright comical.

And the consumer space is not where Windows shines, but rather in the enterprise, where services and features are vertically integrated.

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I set up a local only Windows 11 machine recently. 1. Install with throwaway Microsoft account 2. Create new local admin account 3. Use local admin account to delete setup account Not ideal, but not difficult either.

Doesn't sound like a supported configuration to me. Wouldn't surprise me if it breaks one day.

That is absolutely a supported configuration. Don't make statements you have zero expertise in.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks. I can't imagine the powers that be are too thrilled with this feature, and much like the Intel TPM High Assurance bit, I bet there's an undocumented way to remove it.

They won't put this shit in enterprise versions of Windows. Those customers will demand their own spyware. Given time it will be twisted into a method for profiling consumers and delivering targeted marketing that goes far beyond cookie tracking and search histories. That doesn't work as effectively on a business or government system.

They absolutely will. It's all the same.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

Using Chromebooks and iPhones is supposed to make people less tolerant of vendor overreach?? . The big shortcoming that windows had was fixed with powershell and windows terminal. Now it's just got mildly annoying UI defaults. The big things it has are: * Outlook and the rest of Office * Visual Studio * Active Directory * Tons and tons of industry-specific applications

I didn't say that the alternatives didn't have their own issues with vendor overreach, it's that the reaction you can imagine from staff in an average organisation now if you said "We're moving from Windows to [some other OS]" today is almost certainly going to be very different from the same announcement to an average organisation 20 years in the future.

Agree that Windows has a massive lead.

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