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This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

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Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

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Post by glennos »

DrJokepu wrote: post #20
haclifford wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, it's unbelievable. End users don't care about incorrect markup, they care about their browser hanging.

Obviously this is a bug in IE that needs to be fixed and it's Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that their browser doesn't crash in invalid input, but end users don't actually care about the browser either (they don't even know what a browser is), they care about your site crashing.

I'd say that most do care about their browser. Chrome wouldn't have sped to such popularity otherwise, nor Firefox before it, nor Mozilla, nor... IE. If users didn't care we'd perhaps all still be using Mosaic.

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#42

Post by pavel_lishin »

Karunamon wrote: post #40

I can't be the only one that saw this, and immediately thought "Wrap this in some browser detection code, and display it in a tiny iframe if you're using an inferior browser..." No? Anyone? Guess I'm wearing a black hat today.

If it only crashes IE, and you want to punish IE users, why bother wrapping it?

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#43

Post by danielweber »

mibbitier wrote: post #28
DrJokepu wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously this is a bug in IE that needs to be fixed and it's Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that their browser doesn't crash in invalid input, but end users don't actually care about the browser either (they don't even know what a browser is), they care about your site crashing.

That's incorrect. If your TV crashed would you blame the TV program you were watching at the time? People know the difference between software and content. Content should never be able to crash software.

I had an episode of a TV show on videotape that literally crashed my TV. I'm not kidding. Whenever the show got to a certain point the TV would turn off.

I'm 99% sure that it was something invalid in the closed captioning.

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#44

Post by smarx »

ecaron wrote: post #39

I'm the author that discovered this bug - and went way out of my way to tell the Internet Explorer team about it. I uncovered the error while working on a client's SharePoint site and figuring out why a certain page always caused their computer to freeze up. The most amazing part of this exercise has been analyzing the traffic trends. This page gets a crazy amount of traffic in Japan and China - I still can't figure…

Where is the bug report? I'd be curious to read the response from Microsoft.

(The link on the page is just to a Google Group discussion, which doesn't appear to have participation from Microsoft.)

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#47

Post by Alex3917 »

mibbitier wrote: post #28
DrJokepu wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously this is a bug in IE that needs to be fixed and it's Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that their browser doesn't crash in invalid input, but end users don't actually care about the browser either (they don't even know what a browser is), they care about your site crashing.

That's incorrect. If your TV crashed would you blame the TV program you were watching at the time? People know the difference between software and content. Content should never be able to crash software.

"If your TV crashed would you blame the TV program you were watching at the time?"

I'm not positive, but I believe that it's possible for TV shows to crash TVs, which is why there are standards in that specify what kind of content you are allowed to broadcast:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast-safe

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#49

Post by Estragon »

eli wrote: post #7

Is this a big deal? It's amusing that it is such a simple chunk of HTML, but I was under the impression that it's not terribly difficult to DoS the average browser. I accidentally discovered some very simple HTML that reliably crashes Outlook whenever you try to view or preview the message a while back. I reported it and I think they eventually fixed it.

How do you DoS chrome?

Re: This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

#50

Post by AUmrysh »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #42
Karunamon wrote: post #40

I can't be the only one that saw this, and immediately thought "Wrap this in some browser detection code, and display it in a tiny iframe if you're using an inferior browser..." No? Anyone? Guess I'm wearing a black hat today.

If it only crashes IE, and you want to punish IE users, why bother wrapping it?

So that you can embed it in all of your pages secretly and get users to switch from IE to pretty much any other browser that actually follows web standards for implementation.
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