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Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#81

National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks. I can't imagine the powers that be are too thrilled with this feature, and much like the Intel TPM High Assurance bit, I bet there's an undocumented way to remove it.

They've got their own version of Windows and licensing. They're not running Windows 10 Home lol. They've got their own LTSC type thing. DoD works directly with Microsoft. None of this applies to them.

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#82

National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks. I can't imagine the powers that be are too thrilled with this feature, and much like the Intel TPM High Assurance bit, I bet there's an undocumented way to remove it.

"National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks." Windows is "military-grade". That's a laugh. In case of doubt I am referring to the US practice of marketing certain products as "military-grade". Perhaps to suggest something like, "If it is good enough for the military, then it is surely good enough for the civilian."

>Windows is "military-grade". That's a laugh.

On the inside, the term of art for things like Windows is COTS - Commercial, Off-the-shelf.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#83
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I do. In fact I already record my screen and steam it to my NAS for automatic time tracking and OCR search. It'd be nice to have a less a less janky solution. I'm kinda surprised people just throw away their history. I love being able to restore deleted posts as long as I remember a few words of the content

in all kindness, you're such an incredibly niche example of actual usage of this, that only proves it should've been opt-in instead of opt-out. I don't need to know what my tabs were 3 months ago. I don't need to treasure my precious history of browsing amazon for vacuum cleaners.

There are two types of computer users in this world. 1 billion tabs forever and BleachBit obsessives.

I get anxiety if I don't restart my devices daily.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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I can't imagine IT departments are going to put up with this, either.

I'm sure there will be GPOs and registry keys to disable it. We're actually not worried about it at all, at least no one I know is. Corporate Windows deployments are not the same as Windows Home. We manage it very differently.

So it's ok to have Skyward installed as long as it is disabled?

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

#86

Literally no one wants this “feature”. Microsoft has lost their collective minds.

I think it's a very cool idea. I wish Linux had this.

To be fair I also presently have several hundred tabs open and never delete anything.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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> Look up the CVE stats by OS 2024: https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php?year=2024 9 of 10 are Windows branded operating systems. 3,276 across all of these platforms. Of these, over 1,000 are different versions of Windows 10. Compared to 1799 on the Linux kernel, which is actively developed and will be actively developed for the foreseeable future. Are you arguing that Windows doesn't continuously get CVE e…

I'm saying that the newer the version, the more CVEs it has. Of these, over 1,000 are different versions of Windows 10 Precisely. Windows 11 will be worse. Of course this doesn't exclude bogus/trivial ones, since CVE-chasing is a thing now, but how many were found in older versions? ...and no surprise that I'm being downvoted by the corporate-authoritarian shills for speaking against the narrative. Yet it should be c…

> Precisely. Windows 11 will be worse.

The difference is Win11 continues to address these vulnerabilities. Or you switch to a Nix or air gap the machine. The incorrect approach is to continue using Win10 in production as if nothing is going to happen.

I suspect we have gotten sidetracked into arguing different things at each other for this reason

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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They are probably thinking of training agents to do the back office work of their customers, no? Seems kinda obvious, regardless of the "this is local data only" talk.

I think you’re on to something. There is no way they would be pushing this so hard if they didn’t get something out of it, and collecting mass amounts of training data seems like a plausible explanation.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Literally no one wants this “feature”. Microsoft has lost their collective minds.

I do. In fact I already record my screen and steam it to my NAS for automatic time tracking and OCR search. It'd be nice to have a less a less janky solution. I'm kinda surprised people just throw away their history. I love being able to restore deleted posts as long as I remember a few words of the content

To me it's weird that people need a history at all. It's always been disabled on my browsers and I never felt the need for it.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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No one really cares about that "EOL" crap unless they've been brainwashed by the FUD. A lot of very important software[1] still works on Vista or 7, and a large portion of that even on XP and below. Also don't forget that Win10 IoT LTSC is officially supported until 2032. [1] Not things like the latest games, but LOB applications and related software that companies rely on for their work.

Gamers will care though. I know that demo seems irrelevant but I would assume a non-insignificant % of Windows users use the OS just to game. I hope some developers can recognize the concerns many of us have with Win 11 and continue developing for 10 past EOL.

Windows 11 recently surpassed 50% on Steam, so yeah.
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