Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

Post by ceejayoz » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 8:36 PM UTC

breadwinner wrote: post #10

Note that Elon Musk's definition of free speech includes anything that is not outright illegal, including fake news, see links below. I find it disturbing. The world will be better off without X. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/politics/elon-musk-kam... https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-grok-ai-fake-elect...

Post by anon291 » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 8:37 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #8

rbanffy wrote: post #2

Twitter is not a fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to a company. If the company wants the product to be available, then it should respect local laws the same way it did in Turkey and India.

>Twitter is not a fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to a company. What about the rights of people who want to use twitter? Would you use the same characterization for Chinese censorship (ie. "The New York Times is not an fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to [The New York Times Company]")?

Post by inglor_cz » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 8:38 PM UTC

rbanffy wrote: post #2

Twitter is not a fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to a company. If the company wants the product to be available, then it should respect local laws the same way it did in Turkey and India.

Post by mensetmanusman » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 8:39 PM UTC

breadwinner wrote: post #10

Note that Elon Musk's definition of free speech includes anything that is not outright illegal, including fake news, see links below. I find it disturbing. The world will be better off without X. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/politics/elon-musk-kam... https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-grok-ai-fake-elect...

Post by prepend » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 8:41 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #16

gruez wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Twitter is not a fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to a company. What about the rights of people who want to use twitter? Would you use the same characterization for Chinese censorship (ie. "The New York Times is not an fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to [The New York Times Company]")?

Access to the NYT in China or X in Brazil could destabilize their societies. One could argue that their current development status necessitates authoritarianism until a transitional event happens (which took the west many centuries).