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Texas Is Arming Mexico's Gunmen

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Re: Texas Is Arming Mexico's Gunmen

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was asking, given that it’s unlikely that guns are going to be further controlled, what hope is there for stemming gun violence. Maybe you’re saying gun violence goes down the more the honorable are armed? It’s a genuine question. Not sure you were attempting to answer that particular question. Like I said, loaded topic. Trying to avoid charged language so please take my words as sincere.

Yeah, pretty much exactly that. An armed individual who wants to do harm with that firearm would be a lot less likely to act on it if he knows there are 10 armed good samaritans around him. If you're in the opinion you're the only person likely to have a weapon on yourself, the stakes and balance change entirely.

He is also incentivized to use it before the 10 good samaritans do. And police is incentivized to use it before he does. Also, police cannot arrest someone because he carries a fully loaded machinegun.

I'm not against guns, i think the open carry of the BPP did way more for human rights than MLK and the civil right movement, but the fact that you can carry loaded war weapons and not be arrested for it in some states is fascinating to me.

Re: Texas Is Arming Mexico's Gunmen

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post #22

Makes sense, Texas has lax gun laws, plenty of gun stores and large border crossings where chances of random search are much lower. However, Texas politics means gun laws in Texas are unlikely to change soon.

Sounds like total nonsense, I can walk into a California gun store and buy the same guns they're selling in Texas, not to mention it also borders Mexico [1] Operation Fast and Furious, the operation that saw the US government arm the cartels, was based out of Arizona. [1] https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1207329132/a-federal-judge-ru...

In good faith, I'm going to assume you are just ignorant of California gun laws.

California requires Firearm Safety Certificate [1], Texas does not.

California requires 10 day waiting period [1], Texas does not.

California requires Safe Handling Demonstration to be done by purchasing store [1], Texas does not.

California does not allow certain handguns to be sold in California [1][2], Texas allows all handguns to be sold.

California has one handgun, one semiautomatic centerfire rifle per 30 days purchase restriction, [1] Texas does not.

California has ammo purchase checks [1], Texas does not.

California has assault weapon ban, [3], Texas does not.

[1] https://www.oag.ca.gov/ogvp/overview-firearm-law [2] https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search [3] https://oag.ca.gov/ogvp/fed-assault-weapons-ban

Now we can talk about Fast and Furious and how dumb it was (So dumb) but acting like Texas and California are same when it comes to gun laws is just wrong.

Re: Texas Is Arming Mexico's Gunmen

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I don’t spend too much time thinking about guns so this is going to sound pretty ignorant, but reading this article is the first time I realized the terrible feedback loop at play here: the more guns sold the more crimes committed with guns the more people justify wanting/having guns to protect themselves from crime. Duh, says anyone who reads that. But, with recent US Supreme Court decisions further expanding gun ri…

It's the pipe dream one. The composition of the Supreme Court is fixed for the next many decades. They will strike down more and more gun restrictions.

There might be hope of stemming some gun violence by, for example, having smarter approaches to drugs. Much gun violence is gang activity.

But things like school shootings will probably only expand. Nobody has any idea what the true root cause is, so they can't fix it. At best you can hope that metal detectors and lockdown drills limit the body count.

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