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Re: 1M Users

#91

Post by boingo »

Fokamul wrote: post #72
high_priest wrote: post #66

Scrolling through these profiles in the age of text generating AI, gives me this uncanny feeling, that what I am reading is just random gibberish spat out by a LLM. I feel like anything I'd post on this platform, would get lost in giant noise of generated feces. Maybe it's just, the unknown world of "artsy" people is what is really so off-putting. Maybe I am just getting old and don't understand this joy of childish…

>"FB and there isn't really a reason for AI spam." Heh good joke. Facebook is full of spam bots, phishing etc. Using following template, hack legitimate account, buy ADs for your phishing campaign with stolen CCs, phish people, rinse and repeat. And quantity of phishing/spam is so huge, Meta is basically unable to fight this.

You're right about it existing, but FB could definitely fight it, removing 90% or more. But sadly it generatesa LOT of extra revenue for them (stolen account with stolen CC = thousands spent on ads) so they have monetary incentive to turn a blind eye and let people get scammed.

Re: 1M Users

#92

Post by helboi4 »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #39
lawgimenez wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone here tired of social media? I’m almost 40. Just curious of my age group.

More angry than tired. To clarify: angry at Social Media rather than on it. FB was great in about 2010, but is now ridiculous and basically unusable. My wife is addicted to IG, and spends multiple hours each day scrolling the feed. My social life revolves around WA groups. I tried moving people to Signal but got few takers. I'm enjoying Mastodon at the moment. I'm scared that if I install TikTok I'll get addicted. I'…

I have been addicted to ig. Still can be if I let myself. Reddit can also get me hard. Whatsapp groups I actually love because there's nothing to scroll. Just people lmk about an event and I can interact with them like a human, and I can go to the event. I get to know about things and I don't have to interact with meaningless content alongside it. I love it. What exactly is wrong with Whatsapp groups other than that it's owned by Meta? I also have some Telegram groups.

Re: 1M Users

#93

Post by helboi4 »

lawgimenez wrote: post #21
idonov wrote: post #10

Please let this go viral, it's about time to make social media great again

Anyone here tired of social media? I’m almost 40. Just curious of my age group.

I'm 26 and I'm tired of social media. I was addicted to insta for a bit and I've teared myself away. Now when I go back, I can still feel the addictive quality but for the most part I look at people's posts and wonder how they aren't embarassed. Like why do I care to see this photo of you? Did you really just set your camera up in this complicated way to take a photo in your room? Isn't that sad? Do people actually get anything from these reels that are so vapid? The fact that one of my favourite songs is being used as background music to the most inane "comedy" makes me angry because it's ruining my experience of the art itself! All these things go through my head. I couldn't take myself seriously posting any more unless it was strictly for business.

Re: 1M Users

#94

Post by kaladin_1 »

I love that it is snappy. I didn't read the article but I spent time examining the browser network calls, not much css and js downloads. I truly love the feel of it.

Not sure I care about another SM platform but I was very happy to see a snappy site on a Monday morning. A good reminder to put care in my work this week.

During the weekend, I had to fight the urge not to implement a tiny client for interacting with my bank. A company making loads of profit but can't fix their online banking platform. Every page takes not less than a minute to open. No form of caching user details, API calls are made and take same response time not matter how many times you navigate to a screen.

Re: 1M Users

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Post by Mashimo »

pjc50 wrote: post #76
Sparkyte wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I saw this I was like ooh noes not myspace all over again. I feel this style may actually be a hinderance for adopting more users. People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. It is like comparing Slack to Teams. It will be a long time before anything catches immediately up to Slack or Discord…

> Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good Discord as a text chat app is appalling . Whether on mobile, chromebook or desktop PC it's slow and janky to transition between channels. It is a measurably worse user experience than using IRC on a computer from twenty years ago with 1,000x less raw MIPS. Maybe it has some advantages for voice chat, but to me it's a lowest common denominator we use bec…

What makes it appalling?

You can press ctrl + K to jump to any channel from anywhere. Feels snappy.

Re: 1M Users

#96

Post by grishka »

z3t4 wrote: post #89
grishka wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that all mainstream social media has degenerated into entertainment. Staying up to date about the lives of people you know irl is seemingly no longer their intended purpose. But people's need to connect in this way — just updates from those who they chose to follow, displayed chronologically, and no other content whatsoever — has not gone anywhere. That's why I'm also working on my own project that imp…

You should add some screenshots or video to the Readme, I'm too lazy to build it just to experience it.

Yes I should. A proper website that explains what it is and contains docs about the client API (that also doesn't exist yet) is something I plan to have for 1.0.

In the meantime, here it is live on my server: https://friends.grishka.me/

Re: 1M Users

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Post by pjc50 »

Mashimo wrote: post #95
pjc50 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good Discord as a text chat app is appalling . Whether on mobile, chromebook or desktop PC it's slow and janky to transition between channels. It is a measurably worse user experience than using IRC on a computer from twenty years ago with 1,000x less raw MIPS. Maybe it has some advantages for voice chat, but to me it's a lowest common denominator we use bec…

What makes it appalling? You can press ctrl + K to jump to any channel from anywhere. Feels snappy.

> Feels snappy.

I wonder if this is just everyone else using it on massive gamer PCs and me using it on mobile/chromebook, but .. no. It it is not snappy. The process of fetching all the new messages and rendering them takes up to a second.

I don't understand why people who insist on 60fps games are happy with a 1fps chat app, but I guess they don't have that experience.

Re: 1M Users

#98

Post by Voultapher »

pjc50 wrote: post #76
Sparkyte wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I saw this I was like ooh noes not myspace all over again. I feel this style may actually be a hinderance for adopting more users. People really want something more reactive like Discord. Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good and that is why most people won't abandon it. It is like comparing Slack to Teams. It will be a long time before anything catches immediately up to Slack or Discord…

> Discord is very much disliked, but the software is really good Discord as a text chat app is appalling . Whether on mobile, chromebook or desktop PC it's slow and janky to transition between channels. It is a measurably worse user experience than using IRC on a computer from twenty years ago with 1,000x less raw MIPS. Maybe it has some advantages for voice chat, but to me it's a lowest common denominator we use bec…

Yes on very fast modern hardware, the textbox sometimes takes dozens of frames to display the character I typed, and it is inconsistent. The tech sucks.

Re: 1M Users

#99

Post by pjc50 »

apples_oranges wrote: post #54
massimosgrelli wrote: post #53

It's incredible how this type of revival from the past gained such meaningful traction, but, in a way, I fully understand it. The online world has become so confusing that many desire a simple one. The same feeling drove me to adopt Threads over Twitter/X—even if I still use them both.

The confusion, especially on X, is caused by focusing on what advertisers want vs what users want

No, Twitter was never especially advertiser focused, although it did do a bit of "brand" stuff. The destruction of Twitter was because as a a "free speech platform" it naturally picked up the most aggressive, nastiest, confrontational politics. It then algorithmically shoved this in front of the people most likely to make retaliatory posts. It is dying because it now focuses on what the owner wants, which is a set of increasingly fringe right wing lunatics and some guy called "catturd2".

Hence getting banned in Brazil. I guarantee that is not an outcome any advertiser wanted.

Re: 1M Users

#100

Post by can3p »

Nice! Personally I think that the more niche social networks we have the better it is. The big problem with the mainstream networks is that they've evolved from a media to communicate and keep in touch with real people into a platform for influencers and businesses.

The common complaint I hear about instagram for example is that every second connection of yours would try to sell/teach something and that's just garbage if all you need is to keep in touch with your friends.

The main problems to tackle imo are:

- information propagation speed. This is good in case you want to get a quick update but it also a double edged sword, since this allows information attacks, trolls etc

- Scale. Anything of big scale becomes a problem by itself since it becomes economically viable to target the platform with bots, scam etc.

- Incentives. I think we should get to the point where social networks are being run by non profits

I've posted the link a couple of time, I'm working on my personal take on this problem[0]. My approach is the following:

- Slow down information propagation. Every post is visible to the direct connections, to their connections if you allow it, but no further

- No way to get a connection request from a stranger. Either you specifically allow it, or it's introduced by your direct connections

- No federation, since my idea was to have small communities

- Fully open in the sense of data formats, import/export etc. Migrating between instances is as easy exporting posts in bulk, creating an account on another instance and doing the import. You could do the bulk updates the same way

Also, it's all go + htmx just in case anyone else is also tired of modern frontend mess. I have a couple of videos on the feautures[1], if you like. The design is not great, since I wanted to focus on the idea itself

[0]: https://github.com/can3p/pcom

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa5K-kCUS-FozB6Cw7rJL...

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