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Are senators or pastors above the law? Go read the decision: https://www.conjur.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/PET-124... More generally, one doesn't get to say "No, judge, I won't comply with your decision" without repercussions.
Seems like the repercussions are mainly on Brazilian citizens who cannot access free and open information.
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Freedom of speech is a general conception of human rights, not any one particular law. Governments can choose to respect (or not!) those rights, but the idea applies to everyone.
The judge doesn't care about the morality of his decision. He shouldn't care. He is there to decide what's lawful and unlawful based on the facts and on the law.
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Executives have, by definition, cobtrol over everything inside their company.
That's not even a little bit true. Even the CEO is at the mercy of their board, and their shareholders. Other CxO positions are subservient to the CEO. Often VPs are considered executives, and they certainly don't have control over everything inside their company. If Twitter/X were to hire a rep in Brazil, regardless of the title they're given, that rep would have little to no power over the moderation choices of the…
Musk could choose to furnish the Brazil office of Twitter/X with the necessary resources to do content moderation to conform with local law. He chooses not to, with predictable consequences in terms of legal liability for any local representative.
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> Oh so it is now "wise" to "keep mouth shut". That’s been true since the dawn of communication. It’s called picking your battles. You don’t badmouth a judge while he’s considering your sentence or insult a robber while they have you tied up with a gun pointed at a loved one. > accept the diktats of authority You mean like Musk does. https://www.vice.com/en/article/elon-musk-censors-twitter-in...
> You mean like Musk does. "while Musk is a proponent of free speech, he believes that moderation on Twitter should ‘hew close to the laws of countries in which Twitter operates" India has laws on content moderation, so does China, Turkey and other countries listed in the article. What Law in Brazil did X break? Or was it the whims and fancies of the Judge? Quoting from X post below [1]: “When we attempted to defend…
Twitter is 'banned' in Pakistan for very similar reasons (requiring a local representative, requiring censorship, etc) under the guise of 'national security concerns'. We are all still using it via VPN. We get all the govt related info from it, and no one is asking, how come the govt dept themselves are using twitter when it's banned? No one will move to bluesky/threads/mastodon because as I said everyone is on twitt…
In my country electricity provider sends text message if there is an outage, but if I need to check something, I go to their website, they have nice map showing what areas are affected etc. Does twitter even work without account anymore?
Turned out officers run their entire dept on Whatsapp.
Everything is adhoc, emails are in the old 2MB email, 50 MB inbox era, websites have not been updated since they were created and only page that gets changed is the organogram, (got to advertise the new minister in charge).
So no websites are NOT a reliable source of info. For example, there does infact exist a website to check loadshedding and work shutdown schedules... but my area was split off from a previous feeder and now has a new feeder code, but the website was not updated so I don't updated for my meter.
But I can check the twitter account and see tomorrow's shutdowns, and if I am regular, I can be prepped for tomorrow's 5 hr shutdown.
same for other things like road closures, due to protests or security corridor or whatever. Maybe other things, twitter is the best source of info.
Officers maintain an active twitter profile (despite the ban!) because ministers also are there, and they want their work to be visible.
If your boss sees the tweets of your work and people praising you in the comments, that improves your chances of a promotion and better postings.
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Free speech is all that matters. Musk is not perfect by any means here but he is better than the rest. He is exporting the 1st amendment to us nations who don't get to experience such freedoms. Which is what Twitter should have been doing, instead of kowtowing to the likes of the German and Saudi govts among others...
Twitter has demonstrably kowtowed more to authoritarian governments under Musk. https://www.vice.com/en/article/elon-musk-censors-twitter-in... And he regularly bans journalists who don’t lick his boots. https://newrepublic.com/post/177936/twitter-suspends-account... Stop listening to what he says and pay attention to what he does. You’re being swindled. > He is exporting the 1st amendment to us nations who don't get…
I am paying attention to what he does. I use Twitter for hours every day.
The point is less about "free speech", because of course you're right, this is Musk's version of free speech.
But the real issue to the left is that he's allowing speech that, in recent history, has been considered "dissenting" or restricted. The fact that in the past week we have had Zuck come out and say Facebook was pressured to censor COVID19 materials and that we have mainstream politicians and bureaucrats calling to THROW MUSK IN JAIL is insane. Utterly insane.
The people behind this are getting found out, and there will be political consequences.
Twitter is 'banned' in Pakistan for very similar reasons (requiring a local representative, requiring censorship, etc) under the guise of 'national security concerns'. We are all still using it via VPN. We get all the govt related info from it, and no one is asking, how come the govt dept themselves are using twitter when it's banned? No one will move to bluesky/threads/mastodon because as I said everyone is on twitt…
Most people in real life aren't using twitter actively at all, and they survive just fine? The only people I know who use it are tech workers in the conference scene, in my real world social circles there is nobody. Personally I would check my providers website/status page in such circumstances.
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Can you explain who has control over a company then?
There is no one entity who has control. It is a combination of the CEO, shareholders, governments, employees, and the customers.
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Free speech is all that matters. Musk is not perfect by any means here but he is better than the rest. He is exporting the 1st amendment to us nations who don't get to experience such freedoms. Which is what Twitter should have been doing, instead of kowtowing to the likes of the German and Saudi govts among others...
But Musk doesn't care about free speech, he is actively and eagerly suppressing it as well, just for the other team.
But giving the "other team" a voice (my team, in some ways) is valuable, and we aren't going to give it up easily.
And please, don't point to the fact that there are right-wing loons on Twitter, because there are crazies from all sides all over the internet.
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theres no absolute free speech in the US. There are most certainly plenty of things you cannot say and protestors are often violently silenced by police and riot squads. Then the media upholds its end of the bargain by heavily re-enforcing the State Dept. position while besmirching the message of the protestors and misrepresenting them in any and every way imaginable. You can say a lot of awful shit, but you really c…
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"The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to revive a newspaper's challenge on free speech grounds to an Arkansas law requiring state government contractors to pledge not to boycott Israel, a policy the publication's lawyers called a threat to a constitutionally protected form of collective protest." [1]
1. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-spurns-challe...
2. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boyco...