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Anarchy in Sudan has spawned the world’s worst famine in 40 years

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I think such statements only help promoters of hate against jews.

The vast majority of people - even a significant chunk of the Arab population, in general - don't blame jews for bad things or even hate jews.

There are geo pockets of hate, yes, and small groups that have a disproportionate media power to promote hate narratives.

Let's not echo their thoughts.

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It sound alike you already know the answer to your question. If you ask me, though, I don't see why it's not possible for grave suffering to exist in multiple places simultaneously.

I can tell you why:

My capacity to give damns is finite.

If you happen to be some saint who has infinite capacity for empathy, good for you. I think most people share my sentiment, though.

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> They just want to permanently make life of people in Gaza - at least for a generation - a living hell to teach them a lesson to never try Oct. 7 again.

Nothing fair about that. Most of the people suffering had nothing to do with the events they're being punished for.

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They have been independent since 1956. Other (majority non-European) British colonies/protectorates as diverse as Singapore (ind. 1965), Belize (ind. 1981), India (ind. 1947) and UAE (ind. 1971) managed to build peaceful societies. We need to recognize that the people of countries like Sudan are not children who don't know any better, contrary to European leftists' views. They are fully functioning adults who made a…

I don't think India is a great example here. The Partition of India in 1947 resulted in over 1 million deaths.

On that note, reading about Bangladesh's split from Pakistan was gut wrenching.

So much senseless violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide

Re: Anarchy in Sudan has spawned the world’s worst famine in 40 years

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At which point we admit that current approaches to helping these countries does nothing and we reach out for other, radical, approaches and ideas?

what are you suggesting

Bring back colonization for limited amount of time ie 50years. During that time establish government, educational, civil structures and start the economy. Re-educate the society, instill the values of high-trust society. Pull out of the country gradually replacing foreigners with local population. The name 'colonization' might evoke some sentiments, but we can call this some other name.

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How did so many people come to live in a desert? Was it not always a desert? What sustained these people to get to 46 million?

The Nile. basically everyone lives within walking distance of the river, and it very clearly brings life.

When I was there it was incredible to see all the (basic) farming and houses and people living in the river valley, and less than 5km away have nothing but blowing sand for hundreds and hundreds of miles.

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They have been independent since 1956. Other (majority non-European) British colonies/protectorates as diverse as Singapore (ind. 1965), Belize (ind. 1981), India (ind. 1947) and UAE (ind. 1971) managed to build peaceful societies. We need to recognize that the people of countries like Sudan are not children who don't know any better, contrary to European leftists' views. They are fully functioning adults who made a…

I don't think India is a great example here. The Partition of India in 1947 resulted in over 1 million deaths.

That was before the country got its own constitution and had formed its national identity.

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If anything I’d blame the lack of colonialism as being the root cause of their problems.

Are you perhaps assuming they have no chance of learning to govern themselves peacefully? I don't subscribe to this fixed mindset. I believe all peoples can learn to do well. It's hard, but possible. So the lack of conolialism isn't the answer, but lack of learning.

Perhaps they can, but there’s 0 evidence for it. Regardless my point was that they have had tremendous suffering since being decolonized. Endless conflict with external meddling from all over. I suspect that had they been under colonial rule since then they’d have significantly less suffering and stable. But what can you do because that ship sailed.

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Ah yes, blame the lack of rulers and not colonialism or war.

Sudan has been a sovereign nation for 70 years. How many years must pass before you can no longer blame colonialism for their choices?

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