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Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky
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There are no possible alternatives to US based services unless you enjoy extreme restrictions on speech. Europe has become a big no-go zone for speech over the past decade, they're outright hostile and authoritarian about it (with only a few exceptions among European nations). And the direction re liberalism and human rights in Europe is overwhelmingly hostile toward speech. And for South America, Africa and Asia you…
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I learned that tweets by nobodies on topics such as Hunter Biden's laptop or Russiagate or Israel's behavior in Gaza have more credibility than the entire mainstream media. I fully understand the danger of lies (more than you ever will) and that is precisely why I support free speech for ordinary people.
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#133“Masterful gambit, sir.” (X is facing a deep decline in revenue, cutting its valuation from $44B to ~$12B [Musk’s stake is worth ~$7B], and Musk makes a choice that drives millions of users to an alternate site: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitters-revenue-collapses-84... )
More power to him. He’s making the hard choices and paying a steep price for actually standing for free speech like no other big tech does.
Doesn't he punish accounts that use the words cis and cisgender? I don't really understand how anyone can argue he's a free speech advocate in 2024.
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#135This is all very unfortunate. It's sad to see liberalism dying in Brazil in real time. The very little reported thing is that this judge also installed a fine of something like $8000 per month (more than double the top percentile salary) for anyone using a VPN and also demanded that Apple and Google remove X and any VPNs from their app stores.
Brazil is rapidly turning into a police state.
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The spread of lies or false information has always been the price the pay in order to have free speech. It is the task of the individuals in free societies to discern the lies from the truth, or at least to choose their tools in doing so. You’re lying to yourself if you believe you can have real human free speech with a system capable of censoring all lies.
Yes but once people mess up and choose the wrong thing it’s very hard to go back. There are plenty of examples of countries where bad actors have taken over all institutions and what then? There are not takesies backsies
And you think censorship will solve this? You’ll just get a different sort of monster. One that probably appeals to your worldview in the short term because you fit the typical person you think will be controlling it forever and you think the scope will somehow to be constrained to a small group of things you don’t like.
Well intentioned, but extremely naive. Something our society will sadly have to relearn every century or so.
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#139“Masterful gambit, sir.” (X is facing a deep decline in revenue, cutting its valuation from $44B to ~$12B [Musk’s stake is worth ~$7B], and Musk makes a choice that drives millions of users to an alternate site: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitters-revenue-collapses-84... )
I strongly believe the potential valuation and financial performance was not the primary motivation for Musk to buy Twitter, it’s simply a toy for a man worth $200+ billion.
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> actually standing for free speech I don't know how anyone can continue to claim this with a straight face when he sued advertisers for not continuing to advertise on the website.
"The lawsuit from his X platform against the non-profit advertising initiative GARM has led to its dissolution. A major ad industry group is shutting down, days after Elon Musk-owned X filed a lawsuit that claimed the group illegally conspired to boycott advertising on his platform." -- Google I.e. Musk did not sue the advertisers.
Yes he did:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.39...
Parties include the following. The last 5 are advertisers.
- WORLD FEDERATION OF ADVERTISERS;
- UNILEVER PLC
- UNILEVER UNITED STATES, INC.
- MARS, INCORPORATED
- CVS HEALTH CORPORATION
- ØRSTED A/S
docket: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69017972/x-corp-v-world...