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Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by toomuchtodo »

pfraze wrote: post #78
jazzyjackson wrote: post #71

Is there any plan to offload hosting costs to users repos or do the relays have to bear the cost of images / videos ? It just seems very incongruous to me for a decentralized app to suffer from hugs of death like this link is right now. I actually tried to pull this up on the wayback machine but they seem to have only crawled as far as the butterfly logo ? Is this intentional ? I know that bluesky likes to give users…

The bad crawl for internet archive is because it's a giant SPA. It's a react native codebase which, while irritating for web users, allows us to target all the platforms without building multiple apps. Kind of a life-saver. Relays actually don't process media; that's up to the applications. We intentionally keep the repo-hosting costs low (and they'll get lower soon) so that self-hosting your data and keypairs remain…

Please consider a formal, efficient mechanism to push archival data into the Internet Archive.

Edit: tremendous, thank you!

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by pfraze »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #81
pfraze wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bad crawl for internet archive is because it's a giant SPA. It's a react native codebase which, while irritating for web users, allows us to target all the platforms without building multiple apps. Kind of a life-saver. Relays actually don't process media; that's up to the applications. We intentionally keep the repo-hosting costs low (and they'll get lower soon) so that self-hosting your data and keypairs remain…

Please consider a formal, efficient mechanism to push archival data into the Internet Archive. Edit: tremendous, thank you!

One of our team (bryan newbold) used to work at the IA and we have a good relationship with them because we used to attend their decentralized web summits/camps. Really wonderful people. We do plan to chat with them about it.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by pfraze »

perihelions wrote: post #82
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #67

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It does indeed look like BlueSky overtly celebrating a nation-state banning Twitter, their competitor.

Mike Masnick is on our board and wrote some commentary on this: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/30/brazil-bans-extwitter-in...

I do have to ask where the equivalent free-speech outrage is that Musk is overtly campaigning for a political party via X.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

forinti wrote: post #84
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #67

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Brazil’s constitution guarantees freedom of expression without censorship. That’s the whole issue. Everything else is noise. If the secret censorship orders were legal, X would have complied. It also has nothing to do with Musk since X has a CEO making these decisions.

Also your comment is misinformation - you know, the kind of thing this judge in Brazil would send you to jail for. Specifically this part:

> X went so far as to close its office so as not to have to answer legal orders

They closed their office because Alexandre de Moraes, the judge issuing these unilateral censorship orders in secret without public transparency, also decided to threaten Twitter/X’s legal representative with fines and jail time. He also threatened to seize their personal financial assets (and already froze those accounts). So X had no choice but to close their Brazilian office to avoid having their employees or representation threatened and jailed.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by perihelions »

pfraze wrote: post #85
perihelions wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does indeed look like BlueSky overtly celebrating a nation-state banning Twitter, their competitor.

Mike Masnick is on our board and wrote some commentary on this: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/30/brazil-bans-extwitter-in... I do have to ask where the equivalent free-speech outrage is that Musk is overtly campaigning for a political party via X.

I highly respect Mike Masnick and Mike Masnick speaks for himself and the BlueSky official account speaks for itself, and they have different takes.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by brightball »

tirant wrote: post #22
mstipetic wrote: post #11

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The spread of lies or false information has always been the price the pay in order to have free speech. It is the task of the individuals in free societies to discern the lies from the truth, or at least to choose their tools in doing so. You’re lying to yourself if you believe you can have real human free speech with a system capable of censoring all lies.

Yes. We are supposed to be able to rely on evidence from investigations and hungry reporters with integrity to expose the truth eventually.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by pfraze »

pfraze wrote: post #51

Servers are holding up so far. Somewhere been 800k-1mm signups (need to check backend). Fortunately we were overprovisioned. If we hit 4mm new signups then things should get interesting. edit: we did have some degradations (user handles entering an invalid state, firehose crashed a couple times, image servers are giving bad load latencies randomly) but we managed to avoid a full outage.

(in case I look like a crazy person, hn threads got merged so see my other comment which was a copy & update of this)
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