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Greece announces new rules banning mobile phones in schools from September
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Re: Greece announces new rules banning mobile phones in schools from September
#22Mobile phones are already banned from Greek schools since 2006. The government issued a new set of cost-cutting changes for this academic year. The most fundamental change is that they merge classes together (at least 25 students) to save money. The teachers are unable to work with such big classes.
"Merging" as in ~25 is the new class size after merge or two classes of ~25 will merge to a new class size of ~50? I never really considered it before but on looking it up it seems some places have average class sizes Even 30 I think worked out towards the later years but, looking back, I have no idea how grade school classes of 25+ held together. 50 would have to be just nuts for all but maybe the final year or two.
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#24Glad to see policy makers coming to their senses.
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#25Problem: bullying. Cheap solution that won't work, but they need to do something: take children's phones away.
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#26Problem: bullying. Cheap solution that won't work, but they need to do something: take children's phones away.
Cyberbullying is mentioned a lot in this article but it's as the driver for previous set of rule changes around what happens to students who use cell phones in those situations. This new ban largely focuses on the general distraction phones cause, cyberbullying is at most just one small component in that.
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#27We gave our son in middle school a smartwatch as a compromise, figured a full smartphone would be too distracting.
The middle school our kids go to bans smartwatches as well as phones. If either is discovered, it is confiscated and must be picked up by the parents at the office. It's a private school. All the parents agree with this policy. It's fantastic for the kids, and for teaching.
I worked briefly in a team teating the BlackBerry thermals. I’d be surprised if this was the case — phones have temperature monitoring, and are designed to manage their functions to avoid overheating. There are set maximums for each external material (glass, plastic, metal), and exceeding those can result in lawsuits. (Which happen regardless…) The phones should have detected the temperature conditions and decreased power to the radios.
I’ve got interesting comparisons of BlackBerry vs Apple on this metric. Different story though.
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#28Why don't they just jam them?
That gets you serious Federal felonies in the US.
Prisons can’t even jam cell phones.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd jam the cell signal and force them to go through the school wifi. Then they could control permissions.
The article says the problem is them recording video of kids bullying other kids, which won't be fixed by signal jamming, plus then you're screwed in an emergency.
That'll teach me to consume 3rdhand news. :)
But ya, if we were a little more totalitarian we could just flip a few settings in their phone via the school admin control. Do we trust each other or don't we? So schizo.
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#30Loving this trend of banning phones. I overheard a conversation last week from a group of teachers talking about the phone ban: They had students put their phone in signal blocking bags. But some phones kept searching for signal until they overheated… literally warping the phone screen. Now they advise students to put it in airplane mode before sticking it in the bag…
I swear the LG G6 I had did this. When I visit family, it's a long drive through some pretty spotty areas and the phone would be hot to the touch and the battery drained faster than usual. As if it's just constantly screaming out into the RF void.
If the closest tower is on the fringe of connectivity, and you've got an app that's acknowledging push notifications constantly or similar, then wouldn't it make sense that it has to scream constantly? Keep in mind that not every push on a data level results in something displaying in your notification tray; these are quite distinct despite the phrase "push notification" commonly being used for the combination of a push coming in and a notification being presented as a result.
Maybe the faraday cage bag in GP's anecdote wasn't quite good enough, so the same thing (fringe connectivity combined with lots of Rx packets needing to be ACK'd) was occuring for both of you.
When you are 100% out of range such that no Rx is occuring at all, then at that point yes the phone should not be screaming into the void often enough to heat up and drain the battery.