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Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by jwells89 »

skydhash wrote: post #150
jeffhuys wrote: post #112

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I knew from the very start of using macOS that it was designed around apps NOT being full-screen. Yeah, they are catering to the full-screen-apps people a little more nowadays, but embracing floating windows everywhere, and making good use of the distinction betweend CMD+Tab and CMD+~ makes it so much more powerful than just tabbing through full-screen apps, or three-finger-swiping. It also makes macOS way more beaut…

It’s quite maddening if you use spaces (as workspaces) and same windows across them. An option like CMD-Tabbing being restricted to only applications with windows in the current space will go a long way. Power users is an unknown concept at Apple.

I’m not sure that they’re an unknown concept, because macOS has lots of little things tucked away all over the place for power users. It’s one of the things I miss most when using other desktops, particularly those that go maybe a little too far on the minimalism thing (like GNOME).

It’s just that they expect these users to have fairly specific usage patterns and design around those. The further one’s personal patterns deviate from that expectation, the higher the level of friction encountered.

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Post by johnwalkr »

layer8 wrote: post #134
johnwalkr wrote: post #80

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Recently windows has become much better for things a linux or macOS user takes for granted, like using ssh (a quick google search tells you how to install it using powershell), but is missing a lot of features. Two recent examples for me are taking 5 minutes to figure out how to install and use rsync, and taking 10 minutes finding a program to add/delete pages from a pdf file that's not a trial or demo of some kind.

That’s pretty quick?

I did mention it’s become a lot better. These are just minor annoyances.

Re: Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by skydhash »

jwells89 wrote: post #171
skydhash wrote: post #150

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It’s quite maddening if you use spaces (as workspaces) and same windows across them. An option like CMD-Tabbing being restricted to only applications with windows in the current space will go a long way. Power users is an unknown concept at Apple.

I’m not sure that they’re an unknown concept, because macOS has lots of little things tucked away all over the place for power users. It’s one of the things I miss most when using other desktops, particularly those that go maybe a little too far on the minimalism thing (like GNOME). It’s just that they expect these users to have fairly specific usage patterns and design around those. The further one’s personal patter…

> It’s just that they expect these users to have fairly specific usage patterns and design around those.

That’s how you design generic appliances, not professional tools. While macOS is great for the users it caters to (that only use a handful of apps), it’s not for people that use their computers as computers (making it do pretty much everything).

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Post by marcosdumay »

diggan wrote: post #169
PaulHoule wrote: post #163

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Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. The thoughtlessness/pixel ratio might be worse than Microsoft in some cases, which can be hard to believe.

> Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. Which led to people like me making a fool out of themselves. Always been using Android, and listened to iPhone users singing the praise of the amazing UI and UX of iOS. Well, eventually iPhone 12 Mini released so I figured, "why not give it a try, can't be worse than my…

> things are impossible to discover unless you watch tutorials on YouTube

My last Android phone made me watch about a dozen youtube videos to discover how to configure it... It's not an Apple thing anymore.

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Post by wahnfrieden »

deergomoo wrote: post #162
wojtczyk wrote: post #156

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Thanks! I didn't know about this site to share feedback. I'll give it a try. Also another reader mentioned to enter Feedback Assistant in Spotlight. It's the first time I see that app.

Honestly you might as well scream it into the nearest pillow. I'm sure someone somewhere reads some of them, but in most cases the very best you can hope for is a comment asking you to confirm whether it's still an issue in the latest release/beta.

Wasn’t it admitted or leaked through court documents that it was originally added only to placate upset users who expect to be able to submit feedback but that they weren’t going to particularly monitor or care for what gets submitted through it. I recall it was Jobs himself who didn’t want it and gave in after constant demands for a feedback contact method

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Post by jb1991 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #163
jb1991 wrote: post #96

On mobile devices, Apple’s Calculator app has always been one of the most frustrating apps I’ve ever used, and I’m surprised it’s a stock app by the company itself. If you press buttons quickly, like you would a normal calculator, many of the key presses simply don’t register at all. I’m not sure if they’re prioritizing some pretty little visual animation over actual functionality, but it’s incredibly surprising from…

Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. The thoughtlessness/pixel ratio might be worse than Microsoft in some cases, which can be hard to believe.

That might have been true once, but I don't think that's really true any more. Most users are not awed by their iPhone experience as they were ten years ago. Everyone realizes that iOS and Android are essentially identical for most practical purposes and usability, and most are not choosing the platform for that reason any more. I also think plenty of people in-house at Apple are well-aware of these issues.

Today, it is more about maintaining your suite of apps, the Cloud with all your data, the little blue bubbles in your group chats, and a host of other issues that are more a priority for choosing one platform over another, for most people. If I were to switch to Android now, it would be a huge PIA considering the 10+ years of platform integration and thousands of dollars of app purchases, iCloud, etc, that has made up a significant part of my digital life. I'm sure it would be similar for people going in reverse. Apple knows this, hence why services have become an essential part of their business.

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Post by brookst »

jb1991 wrote: post #177
PaulHoule wrote: post #163

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Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. The thoughtlessness/pixel ratio might be worse than Microsoft in some cases, which can be hard to believe.

That might have been true once, but I don't think that's really true any more. Most users are not awed by their iPhone experience as they were ten years ago. Everyone realizes that iOS and Android are essentially identical for most practical purposes and usability, and most are not choosing the platform for that reason any more. I also think plenty of people in-house at Apple are well-aware of these issues. Today, it…

It’s really the cross-device stuff that keeps me in Apple’s ecosystem. Taking phone calls on my mac, having recent browser tabs from all devices on every device, etc. of course each individual thing can be done on windows / android / linux, but the out-of-the-box, no-config-required experience is really very good. Even if it is frequently and frustratingly not perfect.

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Post by mgkimsal »

ilammy wrote: post #130
artursapek wrote: post #101

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The lock screen is even worse. I have to slow down to input my passcode or button pushes don’t register.

I'm sure the horrible lock screen UX is simply a dark pattern to nudge users towards Face ID.

Assuming I get another apple phone, I'm really hoping they still do something with touchid. That was heaven compared to faceid. I don't think I can use apple wallet payments without faceid, otherwise, I'd ditch it.

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Post by fizzynut »

countmora wrote: post #108
DavidPiper wrote: post #104

Comically, I didn't even notice those wobbly numbers in the first screenshot, I was too busy noticing: - "Unicode" button label way off center - The 8/10/16 selector being off center in its own position - The indicators for bits 31 and 63 are not aligned with each other - x and + not being horizontally aligned (I believe this is an icon-font issue, seen on HN before so knew to look for it)

> "Unicode" button label way off center Its actually the center of the button, I made a video for context: https://imgur.com/a/1Y9O8dS > The 8/10/16 selector being off center in its own position Might be due to the image compression, it looks fine on my MB.

From zooming into your clip both ASCII and Unicode are wrong:

- ASCII is off center ~43/50 pixel margins

- Unicode is off center ~20/25 pixel margins

- Both have different margin sizes

- The button sizes of both are the same.

- The Hide button is offset from both 8/10/16 selector and ascii/unicode buttons

- Even if everything was correct, because there is no contrast between "Off" and background, it's going to look wrong anyway

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