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EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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And it will never disappear from the agenda. Chat control is widely popular among some influential parts of the population. After the attempted terrorist attack in Vienna for the Taylor Swift concert the topic didn’t leave Austrian media. A lot of parents are in favor of this independently of terrorism because of fear of CSAM.

There is an awful lot of lobbying going on and given history of EU regulation this can only end up passing in the worst possible way at one point.

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

#3
I am in favor of ChatControl for politicians only:

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/two-agencies-...

"The Ombudsman accused von der Leyen and the Commission of ‘maladministration’ for failing to produce the deleted text messages, challenging the belief that such texts did not qualify as ‘documents’ under EU law."

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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And it will never disappear from the agenda. Chat control is widely popular among some influential parts of the population. After the attempted terrorist attack in Vienna for the Taylor Swift concert the topic didn’t leave Austrian media. A lot of parents are in favor of this independently of terrorism because of fear of CSAM. There is an awful lot of lobbying going on and given history of EU regulation this can only…

Popular among the population or popular among ÖVP politicians?

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

#5
This could be abused in any number of ways and would probably make people and their precious children less safe in the long run rather than more safe.

You can be sure Viktor Orban would use it to crack down on political opposition in Hungary, for example.

In the wrong hands, could be used to have these precious children or their parents killed or worse.

Authoritarian governments often do things, or threaten to do things, including sexual violence to children as a way to put pressure on and extract information from their parents. This type of surveillance tech would make it easier for them.

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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post #3

I am in favor of ChatControl for politicians only: https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/two-agencies-... "The Ombudsman accused von der Leyen and the Commission of ‘maladministration’ for failing to produce the deleted text messages, challenging the belief that such texts did not qualify as ‘documents’ under EU law."

Same problem in the UK. Boris Johnson claimed he lost his phone and then it got wiped. Rishi Sunak similarly.

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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Okay, so all Western societies are bound to go surveillance state in near future, unchecked by judicial forces and social credit systems to top it off. It will happen and we can only postpone it.

What is the response to that of the technologically competent segment of society? Will this give birth to a rogue cyberpunk culture of hackers and cowboys? Or are we facing an era resembling a black mirror episode with smiles and flowers on the bright side and secret prisons beneath?

Re: EU ChatControl is back on the agenda

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Okay, so all Western societies are bound to go surveillance state in near future, unchecked by judicial forces and social credit systems to top it off. It will happen and we can only postpone it. What is the response to that of the technologically competent segment of society? Will this give birth to a rogue cyberpunk culture of hackers and cowboys? Or are we facing an era resembling a black mirror episode with smile…

> and social credit systems to top it off. It will happen and we can only postpone it.

What social credit systems are you talking about specifically? Maybe I live under a rock, but I haven't heard anything about something like that in EU or Europe.

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