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Wow. The VPN piece of this ought to be the nut graf. Wild overreach.
And banning a social media platform that millions use is not?
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In this case was X not explicitly asked to remove the illegal content? They could have simply complied with the local law and avoided this outcome. With their hardcore engineers I’m sure they could have come up with a region-locked solution.
They already have regional blocking, they have been blocking political tweets and accounts in Turkey upon the request of the Turkish government since years now.
> The decision imposes a daily fine of R$50,000 (£6,800) on individuals and companies that attempt to continue using X via VPN. Fining even users is a bit surprising.
> Fining even users is a bit surprising Not really. Using VPN is illegal in China. The police can put you in jail for using VPNs. Of course, there are very few cases like this even though many people use underground VPNs. This is typical behavior of an authoritarian state: the government reserves the rights to punish you when the situation is right.
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That won't stop you from being fined $9k USD!
I wonder, is there a realistic chance the govt can somewhat easily detect what you have side loaded? ( short of opening your phone and browsing instslled apps )
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Try saying "cisgender" on Twitter, of course the guy is moderating speech he personally doesn't like. It's not difficult to observe.
So Elon Musk getting community-noted is him moderating speech he doesn't like?
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Wow. The VPN piece of this ought to be the nut graf. Wild overreach.
And banning a social media platform that millions use is not?
Banning an entire communications technology, with abusively high fines for citizens who defy the ban, is on a whole other level.
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Is it normal that a judge can impose such blanket fines on users?
This guy is the head of the STF, the highest court in Brazil, so he's kinda doing an "I am the law" bit here. That said, I do think that judges in Brazil can have a larger investigative role due to the different legal system that does not happen in other countries with more separation of powers to prevent exactly this sort of thing.
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All Elon needs to do is have a legal representative in Brazil for his commercial venture. He chose this.
Because the Supreme Court arbitrarily threatened the legal representatives, and Elon didn't comply. There is no legal process whatsoever, nor the regular mediums have been used. It's all arbitrary without the due process. Even a legalist would need to concede that the law hasn't been followed in the first place.
The prior legal representative of X had all her personal bank accounts frozen.
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Because the Supreme Court arbitrarily threatened the legal representatives, and Elon didn't comply. There is no legal process whatsoever, nor the regular mediums have been used. It's all arbitrary without the due process. Even a legalist would need to concede that the law hasn't been followed in the first place.
> There is no legal process whatsoever, nor the regular mediums have been used That's simply false. The proper legal processes are being followed. It's just a narrative pushed by those who refuse to accept that their actions are/were illegal and have consequences.
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I did NOT violate the law. How come he is deleting the VPN apps on my phone??? That I need to remote to my overseas job??? How come I I'm now banned from reading what Zelensky, Kasparov, Yann LeCun, and thousands of others world leaders have to say? How come my neighbor, who makes a honest living through X-Twitter, has now lost her job?
They can't and won't delete any apps from your phone, but the apps would be gone from the stores, which does not make it much less of a bullshit. Restricting access to X makes sense: the platform has removed themselves from the country, making it impossible to resolve legal and financial disputes in Brazil, so it makes sense they are not allowed to operate in the country anymore. Then again, punishing users that acce…
A thorough explanation of the applicable law, point by point, that demonstrates that everything that is happening here is outrageous :