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Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #64

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Yes - there is a law that you need to have legal representation in Brazil and Musk is just flouting the law. So shutdown it is for Musk

shutdown it is because he didn’t agree on collaborating with a tyrant. Would you do it?

Elon loves collaborating with tyrants though [1-2], so that theory doesn't check out.

[1] https://theintercept.com/2023/03/28/twitter-modi-india-punja...

[2] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/musk-defends-ena...

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #75

I wonder what all the walled garden lovers have to say about this. Would have been nice to be able to install apps and VPNs on your phones without Apple's or the government's ability to block it right? Or are you still going to stick to the "it's for our own safety" party line?

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Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #75

I wonder what all the walled garden lovers have to say about this. Would have been nice to be able to install apps and VPNs on your phones without Apple's or the government's ability to block it right? Or are you still going to stick to the "it's for our own safety" party line?

Walled garden are an orthogonal (although themselves non trivial) issues compared to an arbitrary court issuing random arbitrary monarchical summons. No amount of custom tweaked linux will protect you there.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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In what way? Musk decides what's OK and not OK on twitter. Twitter isn't a platform to promote democracy, it promotes what Musk wants. Twitter has turned into hot garbage. For years my feed was pretty clean as it's almost exclusively tech. Gave it up recently as it was clogged with right-wing conspiracy, odd videos and random made up AI young women randomly following me occasionally.

That's ridiculous. You think Elon Musk goes around reading people's tweets and deciding what he wants or not? Or trained an AI model to only allow content that suits him? The guy literally gets community-noted every once in a while. It's free speech.

What's the relationship between twitter and free speech? I genuinely don't see that argument.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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post #62

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A quick google search on Mike Benz came up with his recent interview by Tucker Carlson titled "The Deep State's Step-by-Step Plan to End Free Speech". You know Tucker Carlson is such a big fan of Putin, he was the only western journalist allowed to interview him, which he did. Just listen to the interview, they both just spew fascistic nonsense for two hours. Tucker desperately tries to have Putin condemn the America…

> A quick google search on Mike Benz....You know Tucker Carlson is such a big fan of Putin...

Mike Benz probably uses higher quality evidence for what he presents than a quick Google search, whether he is right or not.

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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There's a lot to say about the Brazilian Supreme Court abuses of power. And to be complete on the context, I expect it to have teeth.

Is it even remotely modeled after the US system of checks and balances? How does the court have what also seems like legislative power?

Yes, it's modeled after the US Constitution.

> How does the court have what also seems like legislative power?

It doesn't. It just does it anyway.

(Technically, it can dictate to courts how to interpret laws. On practice, it dictates things like "a person can only be arrested after a judge hosts a trial and orders it" as "a person can only be arrested after all judges host a trial". The power to interpret laws is extremely ambiguous.)

Re: Brazilian court orders suspension of X

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They can't. I can easily use a Brazil endpoint to establish a tunnel elsewhere and browse X, formerly Twitter. I suppose they could try fining the VPN service provider. (But even then they won't be able to prove what's going on.)

What if you're a public figure, maybe one critical of the government and you're still tweeting while in Brazil? Seems pretty easy to enforce to me regardless of the technical ways people circumvent it.

It would be amusing if the government tried to introduce that as evidence and then got countersued for having used X themselves.

I know, I know. There is probably some exemption for law enforcement. Or if that was overlooked, there will be soon.

But it was still an amusing thought.

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