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Re: Why go out?

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Post by ricopags » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 1:20 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #52

nerdfiles wrote: post #7

I first simply want to address the smoking bit. _Something_ about smoking is habitual, or rather, not to see that a drug addiction could instantiate or engender a habit which itself re-enforces the addiction, might be the main problematic of 'quitting advice.' Rather, ignoring that cigarettes prompt a way of life only suggests to me that said advice treats an idealized person, or biological system, a model. We are no…

Slavery isn't some inevitable feature of, trade, or political systems, that one chooses or does not. I don't know if it's inevitable, but it's only been for the last couple of hundred years of human history that it was not very commonplace.

And by 'not very commonplace' do you mean 'more common than ever'?

As industry has expanded, so has slavery.

http://slaveryfootprint.org/

Re: Why go out?

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Post by shabble » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 1:20 AM UTC

This is off-topic regarding the actual article, but has anyone else noticed the keyword stuffing spam in the page footer if javascript is disabled?

I sent a quick email to the site contact address describing the problem, but I'm curious if anyone has any better ways of informing people about this sort of thing?

I've tried a few times for different sites in the last few weeks, and I never hear back; I assume the words needed to describe the problem are themselves liable to get spamfiltered and so nobody even sees my mail. Or it looks like a phishing/scamming attempt itself (although I'd like to think with better spelling & grammar), and gets binned for that.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by snapdata » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 1:30 AM UTC

shabble wrote: post #62

This is off-topic regarding the actual article, but has anyone else noticed the keyword stuffing spam in the page footer if javascript is disabled? I sent a quick email to the site contact address describing the problem, but I'm curious if anyone has any better ways of informing people about this sort of thing? I've tried a few times for different sites in the last few weeks, and I never hear back; I assume the words…

I am amazed that you looked through the source code of the page. It seemed like a pretty bland/generic site to me, not worth checking out what's going on under the hood. Good find though.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by shabble » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 1:38 AM UTC

snapdata wrote: post #63

shabble wrote: post #62

This is off-topic regarding the actual article, but has anyone else noticed the keyword stuffing spam in the page footer if javascript is disabled? I sent a quick email to the site contact address describing the problem, but I'm curious if anyone has any better ways of informing people about this sort of thing? I've tried a few times for different sites in the last few weeks, and I never hear back; I assume the words…

I am amazed that you looked through the source code of the page. It seemed like a pretty bland/generic site to me, not worth checking out what's going on under the hood. Good find though.

Nah, I found it because I generally browse with Firefox + NoScript which disables most javascript, including the little snippet that this spamblob uses to hide itself with css. So it appeared black and bold in the middle of the page footer :)

Re: Why go out?

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Post by dr42 » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:00 AM UTC

alexro wrote: post #58

dr42 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the dictionary doesn't define atheism as holding a belief in evolution, I would suspect there is an extremely high correlation between them. It's always the religious fundamentalists that reject evolution because anyone with any kind of scientific mind would accept the mountains of evidence. If one rejects the spiritual or mythological explanation for things being the way they are, it's hard to come up with ano…

If it wasn't God who created the Universe than who did? It created itself somewhere? That's where any rational mind should stop shouldn't it? We perceive the things in some way, which doesn't mean it is the right way or the only way.

I'm not sure I follow you. Or rather I follow what you're saying, but don't see how it relates to my comment in any way.

I don't think a rational mind should just stop and give up trying to explain things. I believe in science, which is why I believe in evolution, or rather the evidence for it.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by haberman » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:23 AM UTC

WiseWeasel wrote: post #57

haberman wrote: post #55

The author sounds like she suffers from crippling anxiety and possibly depression, and I am incredibly empathetic because I have lived through similar things. I can understand from personal experience how a person could come to the conclusions she does. But I hope that she manages to find the solution that frees her of this burden. Whether it's meds, lifestyle changes, or moving to a place that gets more sun, I want…

You might be projecting the putative "crippling anxiety" into her words. I think she was trying to write something worth reading, and so naturally dramatized her story a bit. I thought it was well-written, displaying a healthy level of self-observation and satisfying developmental progress for the length of the piece.

"But let me assure you, this conceptual poet was digging his nails into my heart—he knew it, and, five minutes later, I suddenly felt it too—which led to a week and a half of fuming in bed, unable to sleep, my declaring this man my enemy, the reconceiving of a magazine article I was writing in such a way as to include a subtextual layer that would annihilate conceptual poetics, a week and a half of going out every night and talking through the insult with each of my friends—what am I even saying? It took leaving the continent for the insult to finally recede into the background of my days, and for me to regain my equilibrium."

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"And then . . . I destroyed it. I met someone and then another person and before I knew it, all the chaos of life came back, along with all my self-doubt and anxiety and fear."

This is not normal.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by Volpe » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:34 AM UTC

sophacles wrote: post #19

sp332 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of your spiritual bent ... except for every religion that has solitary monks, or hermits, or walkabouts, etc.

Who are considered holy not because they aren't social, but because they are rejecting something fundamentally human in the name of $diety.

A number of schools of buddhism hold no 'diety', yet still have monks who isolate themselves.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by WiseWeasel » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 2:54 AM UTC

haberman wrote: post #66

WiseWeasel wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be projecting the putative "crippling anxiety" into her words. I think she was trying to write something worth reading, and so naturally dramatized her story a bit. I thought it was well-written, displaying a healthy level of self-observation and satisfying developmental progress for the length of the piece.

"But let me assure you, this conceptual poet was digging his nails into my heart—he knew it, and, five minutes later, I suddenly felt it too—which led to a week and a half of fuming in bed, unable to sleep, my declaring this man my enemy, the reconceiving of a magazine article I was writing in such a way as to include a subtextual layer that would annihilate conceptual poetics, a week and a half of going out every ni…

I dunno, I read it as her just being dramatic for effect, but you could be right. I am skeptical that someone truly this anxious would willingly share such intimate thoughts with us.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by GigabyteCoin » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 3:29 AM UTC

I go out to enjoy the scenery, get exercise, interact with people, catch up on fashion, check up on prices, try new things, golf, hike, and just enjoy life in general.

Unfortunately most all of those things listed above that I love cannot be done inside one's own home.

Re: Why go out?

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Post by david_xia » Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 3:34 AM UTC

haberman wrote: post #55

The author sounds like she suffers from crippling anxiety and possibly depression, and I am incredibly empathetic because I have lived through similar things. I can understand from personal experience how a person could come to the conclusions she does. But I hope that she manages to find the solution that frees her of this burden. Whether it's meds, lifestyle changes, or moving to a place that gets more sun, I want…

I think you are mistaking the dramatic flourishes of the essay for its true message. It's a well-written piece that has a twist ending (not entirely unexpected).

"Maybe we go out in order to fall short . . . because we want to learn how to be good at being people . . . and moreover, because we want to be people."

She's saying that addiction to people is not the same as addiction to cigarettes. This is a good kind of addiction because human beings are by nature social creatures and should interact with one another.