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Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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Can it support raw HTML + CSS (or tailwind) ?

Without a framework? Unfortunately, no since there's a necessary compile step to instrument the code.

Thought theoretically, you could write a parser to add the necessary information to the HTML tags at "build time"

Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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Love seeing more innovation in this space! I know Oleg (former Webflow eng) has been working on https://webstudio.is for a while; also open-source and visual editing for React apps. How does Onlook compare?

Webstudio is very good! I didn't know it produces React.

Onlook has less abstraction between code and the visual editor. It works with your existing React codebase with no migration. Everything is written into code in real-time so you wouldn't import or export the code from Onlook. You can use it anytime and stop anytime like an IDE.

Does this make sense? I'd love to hear Oleg's thoughts on this as well :)

Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inspector does write to inline styles, though if you try to listen for those changes with a mutation observer, it won't fire. I think they disable event propagation for inspector-driven DOM changes, which limits your ability to make use of it at the application layer. I've briefly considered just forking chromium, but I don't know C++ and not sure it makes sense to invest in that level of effort. I don't want to…

> I don't want to step on your toes by linking my own project Not at all, it's in good spirit! Happy to talk through any technical details from my side :) > though if you try to listen for those changes with a mutation observer, it won't fire It doesn't have to fire an immediate mutation imo. When you click on an element to edit, you could inject a data-attribute into it (not sure if the Chrome Devtool let you do thi…

I feel like the way this conversation has gone is one of the biggest pluses of this being OSS. The discussion is less competitive. Discussions in public affect contributorship, it's important that they are positive and have minimal ego.

Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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I reviewed the project and identified that the onboarding process exceeded a five-minute threshold, leading me to discontinue attempts. I utilized a download link for my Apple silicon, successfully installed the associated application, yet the interface displayed only the #body element, restricting any additional input. It is suggested that further refinements be made to the user onboarding process. I contrast this experience with my utilization of WebStudio, where I was capable of initiating work within a single minute.

Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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I reviewed the project and identified that the onboarding process exceeded a five-minute threshold, leading me to discontinue attempts. I utilized a download link for my Apple silicon, successfully installed the associated application, yet the interface displayed only the #body element, restricting any additional input. It is suggested that further refinements be made to the user onboarding process. I contrast this e…

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Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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post #46

I reviewed the project and identified that the onboarding process exceeded a five-minute threshold, leading me to discontinue attempts. I utilized a download link for my Apple silicon, successfully installed the associated application, yet the interface displayed only the #body element, restricting any additional input. It is suggested that further refinements be made to the user onboarding process. I contrast this e…

This is valid and helpful feedback. We've been focusing on the engine until now, but we need to address onboarding on the roadmap. I've created an issue for this here [1]. Thanks for giving it a try :)

[1] https://github.com/onlook-dev/onlook/issues/247

Re: Show HN: An open-source, local-first Webflow for your own app

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post #42

Love seeing more innovation in this space! I know Oleg (former Webflow eng) has been working on https://webstudio.is for a while; also open-source and visual editing for React apps. How does Onlook compare?

Webstudio is very good! I didn't know it produces React. Onlook has less abstraction between code and the visual editor. It works with your existing React codebase with no migration. Everything is written into code in real-time so you wouldn't import or export the code from Onlook. You can use it anytime and stop anytime like an IDE. Does this make sense? I'd love to hear Oleg's thoughts on this as well :)

We are generating React/Remix app atm, but our architecture is designed to support other frameworks as well.

It is achieved by using data as a source of truth, not the code. Web tooling is very fragmented. People have too many opinions on how to write components and that makes it nearly impossible to have components written by hand and then synced back into the UI without enforcing a huge amount of constraints. You will end up writing code in such a way that the UI can handle.

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