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GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by aeonik »

freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

Why did you switch to tmux? It seems to me that screen is more ubiquitous, and has more features. Having a modem is a pretty handy thing built into it.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by mrj »

mdaniel wrote: post #8
freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

> Ctrl+a from my cold dead fingers As someone who uses `set -o emacs` I cannot possibly imagine pressing C-a C-a to go to the beginning of the line Also, as an iTerm2 user: the integration with tmux control mode (tmux -CC) is just amazing for the way I use tmux

Yeah maddening! But you can remap it. I use this in my .screenrc to make it C-f:

escape ^Ff

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by ho_schi »

neilv wrote: post #19

My `~/.screenrc` has a comment at the top, which says I created it on "05-May-1994" (before I switched to ISO 8601 dates). I'm no longer using `screen` on an HP 2392A dumb terminal and PP 14.4kbps modem. But `screen` is still coming in very handy, when working on servers, and for some kinds of developing&running long-running programs on the workstation laptop. It's also fun, on the occasion that you introduce `screen…

There are bugs. But Screen itself is running locally and per-user?

I could imagine attacking from one tab (window) interacting with another tab but then the user runs already a harmful application. I worry more about everything containing Electron or similar built “web applications”.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by Jtsummers »

aeonik wrote: post #21
freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

Why did you switch to tmux? It seems to me that screen is more ubiquitous, and has more features. Having a modem is a pretty handy thing built into it.

Not GP, but ~15 years ago tmux offered a lot better screen splitting options and a few other features that screen did not. That's why I switched. I did continue to use screen at work because it was ubiquitous, but then sysads started installing tmux as well and that was no longer an issue.

screen has improved a lot since then, but it lagged behind substantially for years.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by ho_schi »

aeonik wrote: post #21
freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

Why did you switch to tmux? It seems to me that screen is more ubiquitous, and has more features. Having a modem is a pretty handy thing built into it.

People say tmux is more powerful. Whatever that means?

Screen seems to cover all my needs and it learning it is easy. I came for the tabs (windows), sessions, copy and paste - but the must have for everyone is the scrollback buffer. You need it! Especially since we can scroll one the plain terminal.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by kzrdude »

freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

Truecolor finally being released is big

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

#27

Post by Jtsummers »

mrj wrote: post #22
mdaniel wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ctrl+a from my cold dead fingers As someone who uses `set -o emacs` I cannot possibly imagine pressing C-a C-a to go to the beginning of the line Also, as an iTerm2 user: the integration with tmux control mode (tmux -CC) is just amazing for the way I use tmux

Yeah maddening! But you can remap it. I use this in my .screenrc to make it C-f: escape ^Ff

C-f moves forward a character which is also useful. The easiest to type character that had the least impact I could find was to remap to C-j. Works well in both Dvorak and Qwerty layouts and that's the one emacs shortcut I use so infrequently that I can live with having to type it twice.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by entropie »

trallnag wrote: post #13
freedomben wrote: post #2

Looks like a few QoL improvements and bug fixes. Nothing disruptive that would normally come with a major release version. Looks like you can set a password on it now, which is cool (though I personally like having linux perms govern access to my screen/tmux). Multiinput sounds interesting as well, though in the past that was a feature I thought I'd love to have, but once I had I never use. I'm glad to see Screen is…

I wonder how many people are using the default b key binding in tmux

No emacs user.

I use p in screen and tmux as prefix key. I usually prefer tmux.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by pak9rabid »

thiht wrote: post #18
nolist_policy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Screen can connect to serial ports. screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600

What does it do exactly?

It functions like a lightweight version of minicom (which is a terminal program), which when connected to the console port of many network appliance hardware devices (like switches, routers, access points, etc) allows local access to the device (much like having a monitor/keyboard/mouse connected to a computer) without having to rely on a network connection.

Re: GNU Screen 5.0 Released

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Post by Izkata »

throw0101d wrote: post #6

To anyone to perhaps who has used both a lot: * Are there particular pros and cons to using screen or tmux ? (I'm generally on macOS for work, but never really go into using iTerm2, so that integration isn't a big thing for me personally.) Edit: I mean why use one over the other. I generally use something on the destination host I'm SSHing to in case the network goes sideways.

One advantage of knowing screen, it's likely already installed on whatever remote machine you're connecting to.
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