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yes, finally supports C++.
Not sure why this was downvoted, C++ support is huge . The biggest thing holding Win Phone 7 back was requiring C#. Meant every iOS/Android app needed to be rewritten from scratch which obviously isn't going to happen for anything but the absolutely most popular stuff.
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More importantly Microsoft just Osborned Nokia's current product line. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
They didn't have to! -- what they just did was screw themselves in the branding (and that's it). They've created a new update, Windows Phone 7.8 that will rollout to current Nokia devices and other Windows Phone 7.5 devices. It will include many of the new UX features, such as the new home page, etc. But as WP8 is changed so much on a fundamental level, it makes no sense to port that to legacy hardware. They're reenv…
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I have a Windows Phone (Lumia 710) besides my iPhone, that I bought two weeks ago. The phone itself was released in Europe in November 2011. And now it's outdated/legacy already? It breaks trust. How would I know that if I buy a WP 8 phone that it will be supported with upgrades a year down the line?
Wouldn't such criticisms be valid for Android as well?
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Depends. No such criticism can be said of Android as an OS, but you could certainly make good arguments directed at the ecosystem in general. The interesting thing here isn't that the upgrade isn't compatible, it's that most people would expect Microsoft to support older systems. It's a break in their character. Maybe a good one? We'll see.
So it is delivering an update for those phones too. Additionally there is a promise to support OTA upgrade of all released devices for 18 months. What android phone has that commitment?
To the best of my knowledge, all pure Android phones have that, plus more in some cases (the Nexus line). Additionally, many of the higher-end ones from other manufacturers likely do as well.
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, he made it really clear that Apple's job wasn't to beat Microsoft. Apple then delivered on that assessment and created entirely new markets for themselves. Sadly, somehow, Microsoft went all XOR on our asses. I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). Microsoft are kings of productiv…
> when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). That's not the best example to use of Microsoft's failure. Every time Zune has been brought up for discussion here, I've seen primarily two types of responses... From people that actually owned a Zune: Fantastic product (better than my Apple iPod) . From people that never owned or tried a Zune: It's absolute crap (I've never seen any of my iPod…
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, he made it really clear that Apple's job wasn't to beat Microsoft. Apple then delivered on that assessment and created entirely new markets for themselves. Sadly, somehow, Microsoft went all XOR on our asses. I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). Microsoft are kings of productiv…
MS isn't going after Apple. It probably can't, but it knows that if it delivers tablets and phones that can integrate with AD, Exchange, and other enterprise services and be a lot less locked down, they can steal Android's lunch and create a business friendly phone/tablet ecosystem. If Joe and Jane Public buy those, that's great too. Oh, and they will because they'll feel comfortable with Windows, especially if they…
Microsoft is absolutely going after Apple. Apple is making inroads into business -- and with that influence and control over enterprise choices -- and Microsoft rightly sees the threat. On the Venn diagram of needs that a device satisfies, WP7 and now 8 overlaps the iPhone far more than it overlaps Android.
Oh, and they will because they'll feel comfortable with Windows, especially if they are told "Oh btw, you can have Windows on your phone and tablet as well as Office now, why bother with whatever Android is or that Apple stuff."
That was what led to the Windows CE disaster. Of course this time around they're trying it in the opposite direction, trying to force a smartphone UI on desktops. We'll see how that works out.
Mind you I wholly disagree with the GP, and I think it too was drawn from the well of delusion: Microsoft saw that the separation of enterprise and consumer has blurred. Trying to out-RIM the Blackberry -- as it fails -- would be a hilariously dumb move at this point. People want to carry one device and it needs to competently cover both sides of the equation.
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> Are you forgetting that they're also still king of the consumer desktop? They're probably still the majority shareholder, but I wouldn't call them kings. And if they are kings, they're leading a dying kingdom. Have you seen the iPad sales numbers recently?
> And if they are kings, they're leading a dying kingdom. Have you seen the iPad sales numbers recently? Here are the Q1 2012 numbers: PC sales [1]: 88.9 million iPad sales [2]: 11.8 million About 13% as many iPad sales as PC sales. While the iPad sales are impressive, it doesn't seem like PCs are dying yet. [1] http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1981717 [2] http://www.abiresearch.com/press/3919
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, he made it really clear that Apple's job wasn't to beat Microsoft. Apple then delivered on that assessment and created entirely new markets for themselves. Sadly, somehow, Microsoft went all XOR on our asses. I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). Microsoft are kings of productiv…
> when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). That's not the best example to use of Microsoft's failure. Every time Zune has been brought up for discussion here, I've seen primarily two types of responses... From people that actually owned a Zune: Fantastic product (better than my Apple iPod) . From people that never owned or tried a Zune: It's absolute crap (I've never seen any of my iPod…
The problem was that it was almost as good as my iPod. Releasing a product that is almost as good as a product that came out 3 years earlier doesn't work. If you are going to release 3 years late, you have to be better. I agree with the above comment, Microsoft will fail it tries to beat apple where it is strong. Microsoft either needs to find a "Steve Jobs" who can drastically change its company culture or stop tying to compete with apple on consumer products.
Note: I am being generous when I say it was almost as good. It had downsides. In particular the companion software to load up music was a bad experience.
My guess is that when people say they loved their Zune, its because they wanted to love it. If you gave the same person an iPod (and they were being impartial) my guess is they would choose the iPod.
However, I don't think its likely these Zune owners were impartial. It would not be a big surprise if most people who bought and defend the Zune are Microsoft Zealots that want to find reasons to prove Microsoft is great and Apple is bad.
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> when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). That's not the best example to use of Microsoft's failure. Every time Zune has been brought up for discussion here, I've seen primarily two types of responses... From people that actually owned a Zune: Fantastic product (better than my Apple iPod) . From people that never owned or tried a Zune: It's absolute crap (I've never seen any of my iPod…
Microsoft's failures extend way far beyond the Zune: http://obamapacman.com/2012/06/microsoft-tablet-pc-mobile-de...