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"Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by ThrowawayB7 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #25

I've used Everything for as long as I can remember, and it has completely spoiled me on search/launcher functionality. Perfect UI, perfect results ordering (no cute prediction about what you might want), and, of course, truly instant results and a truly live index - it will find files created one millisecond ago. I also use Launchy specifically for launching programs. Same instant results, though not live-indexed. Wh…

> "How is one of the most fundamental features of the biggest software platform in history, made by one of the biggest companies in history, after decades, still not even close to as good as multiple basic indie replacements?"

Because then people whine about monopolies and sherlocking of the indie replacements, that's why. Anybody remember this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/jun/08/adobe.sof... ?

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by monkeyfun »

ThrowawayB7 wrote: post #91
happytoexplain wrote: post #25

I've used Everything for as long as I can remember, and it has completely spoiled me on search/launcher functionality. Perfect UI, perfect results ordering (no cute prediction about what you might want), and, of course, truly instant results and a truly live index - it will find files created one millisecond ago. I also use Launchy specifically for launching programs. Same instant results, though not live-indexed. Wh…

> " How is one of the most fundamental features of the biggest software platform in history, made by one of the biggest companies in history, after decades, still not even close to as good as multiple basic indie replacements? " Because then people whine about monopolies and sherlocking of the indie replacements, that's why. Anybody remember this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/jun/08/adobe.sof... ?

Odd choice of example, and I really have to disagree on sherlocking.

First, why the example is odd / poor imo

Adobe trying to maintain as close to a monopoly as it can on a file format in order to have more control and (at least hoping to) generate more revenue through that control... threatening legal action to maintain their control? It's not a strong argument to say it's people being mad about microsoft's own monopolism, rather it just speaks to how corporations acting with hostility via formal legalistic channels harms attempts to use an at the time proprietary file format. It's actually in fact a counter argument to what you wrote.

As for my stronger feeling against your sherlocking point, I'd note that generally people aren't mad about sherlocking because someone else does something good and it should only ever be done once ever by one person or group in history.

Rather, such anger is usually stemming from when it's perceived as a deliberate undercutting or lazy copying. When some person or group was far more innovative or did far more difficult initial design work, only to now have been so undercut without recompense by uncaring predators lying in wait.

A great example being video game modding. People are rarely mad if one game is simply implementing its own version of a feature popular in mods or another game.

Far more often are they angry because a modder's unique and beloved system just got lifted 1:1, or clearly was irrelevant and had no reason to be added to the base game even if it's popular, and yet they're not even cited as an inspiration or hired/paid/etc. by the company that obviously felt it greatly improves the value of the game.

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by theendisney »

happytoexplain wrote: post #25

I've used Everything for as long as I can remember, and it has completely spoiled me on search/launcher functionality. Perfect UI, perfect results ordering (no cute prediction about what you might want), and, of course, truly instant results and a truly live index - it will find files created one millisecond ago. I also use Launchy specifically for launching programs. Same instant results, though not live-indexed. Wh…

Will try "everything", the first thing i do after a fresh windos install is disable indexing. It just hammers away on the drives endlessly??? That is not what i buy disks for. I have enough [old] hdds for them to expire regularly. I expect less from newer larger drives.

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by danbruc »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #75
danbruc wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that searching on Windows sucks but I guess there is a trade-off to be made. You can use very abstract APIs that will work for all kinds of file systems, whether a local disks, a DVD, a USB connected phone, or a network drive, but it will be slow and limited because you can only rely on the lowest common denominator. On the other end of the spectrum you can build highly specialized functionality that can be f…

Or, you build "highly specialized functionality" for multiple media / file systems, use them accordingly, and merge the results.

At the cost of a huge increase in complexity and maintenance costs, that is the trade-off.

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by TeMPOraL »

danbruc wrote: post #97
TeMPOraL wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, you build "highly specialized functionality" for multiple media / file systems, use them accordingly, and merge the results.

At the cost of a huge increase in complexity and maintenance costs, that is the trade-off.

I remember the days when the point of tech work was to eat the complexity on your side, so your users wouldn't have to. Alas, the dominant mindset today is that "dev time is expensive", while users' lives are free to waste.

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by danbruc »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #98
danbruc wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the cost of a huge increase in complexity and maintenance costs, that is the trade-off.

I remember the days when the point of tech work was to eat the complexity on your side, so your users wouldn't have to. Alas, the dominant mindset today is that "dev time is expensive", while users' lives are free to waste.

I do not disagree with you, but having the news and weather forecast in the start menu is seemingly a more important feature then having a good search functionality, what can we do? And maybe that even makes sense, maybe we are just not the target audience that brings in the money, or maybe they really just make stupid decisions, that is hard to tell from the outside in an objective manner.

Re: "Everything" is a filename search engine for Windows

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Post by BizarroLand »

lucb1e wrote: post #21
BizarroLand wrote: post #15

If you've never used the HTTP server, you're doing yourself a disservice. It creates a locally hosted web page that you can use to share with everyone on the network a fast file search client. Highly recommended! Throw in an nginx reverse proxy for https support and you are off to the races.

This is advice meant for server systems, I imagine?

I mean, if you have a windows server, that's an ideal setup, but if you just have a few computers on a network and want 1 place to go to locate all of the available files, then running it in http mode on a single PC and sharing the link around is just as good.

Prevents you from having to run it on multiple machines redundantly.

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