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Post by alinajaf » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 6:09 PM UTC

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Serious response from Rails-land. Though this project is interesting, it's not really going to make much of a dent in my daily workflow. There is a metric shit-ton of work being put into things that do. Over the past few years: * The Rails queuing API (so you all queuing methods e.g. via Resque or DelayedJob have a common client interface). * The asset pipeline (css/js concatenation + dependency management, plus prec…

Rails volken: Do yourselves a favor, stop promoting stuff like this. It makes you look like Baby's First Web App. I'd seen the Resque/DelayedJob stuff. The equivalent in Python-land are Celery and Carrot. They're probably not much different. >* The asset pipeline (css/js concatenation + dependency management, plus precompilation for prod). Creating defaults for this stuff is definitely cool, but OTOH, it's something…

Post by heretohelp » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 6:13 PM UTC

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Rails volken: Do yourselves a favor, stop promoting stuff like this. It makes you look like Baby's First Web App. I'd seen the Resque/DelayedJob stuff. The equivalent in Python-land are Celery and Carrot. They're probably not much different. >* The asset pipeline (css/js concatenation + dependency management, plus precompilation for prod). Creating defaults for this stuff is definitely cool, but OTOH, it's something…

> I'd seen the Resque/DelayedJob stuff. The equivalent in Python-land are Celery and Carrot. They're probably not much different. I'd expect as much. > Creating defaults for this stuff is definitely cool, but OTOH, it's something we solved at my company with a single bash script ; Good for you guys! That's going to be one hell of a bash script though, enjoy maintaining that. > Vim user. Pffffft. ;) All hail the hypno…

Post by heretohelp » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 6:17 PM UTC

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http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4135058 I just got done proselytizing the benefits of automation. I'm not arguing against myself. I'm concerned with why everything Rails people promote and celebrate seems to be along the lines of what originally popularized the framework. "Make a blog in 15 minutes!" --- you remember this one? Were you programming back then? It's exemplary of what I'm talking about. Why are they…

> "Make a blog in 15 minutes!" --- you remember this one? Were you programming back then? It's exemplary of what I'm talking about. Actually: Yes. I was even programming Ruby before that, after it won in a flip-coin-contest against Python. :) We might be on the same page here, but with different mindsets: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4138088 I am a happy Puppet/Vagrant-user and would give away a substantial am…

Post by heretohelp » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 6:53 PM UTC

alinajaf wrote: post #46

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>Err, OK. No sense of humor? Oh right, HN. >Good for you guys! That's going to be one hell of a bash script though, enjoy maintaining that. Nope. Catenating files has been the privilege of Unix users since the 70s, that we would believe this to be difficult or complicated is embarrassing. The trickier part was sedding the query string that invalidates the old versions.

> No sense of humor? Oh right, HN. I'll start laughing when you start being funny. > Nope. Catenating files has been the privilege of Unix users since the 70s, that we would believe this to be difficult or complicated is embarrassing. The trickier part was sedding the query string that invalidates the old versions. Ooooh! Colour me embarrassed, you got me there champ!

Post by heretohelp » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 7:03 PM UTC

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>Err, OK. No sense of humor? Oh right, HN. >Good for you guys! That's going to be one hell of a bash script though, enjoy maintaining that. Nope. Catenating files has been the privilege of Unix users since the 70s, that we would believe this to be difficult or complicated is embarrassing. The trickier part was sedding the query string that invalidates the old versions.

Using the query string to bust cache and replacing your assets on deploy is the simple solution that Rails' asset pipeline replaces. Rails' asset pipeline doesn't delete old assets. That way you don't get inconsistencies when not all of your servers symlink to the new assets at the same moment.