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Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Post by userulluipeste » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 4:37 PM UTC

craigvn wrote: post #40

corin_ wrote: post #17

> I hate the ribbon in Windows 8 - that’s what most people said about the ribbon when it was first introduced in Microsoft Office 2007. And yet, it has become a great interface paradigm which makes features more visible and easier to use. Not 100% related to Windows 8, but am I in the minority of disliking the ribbon in Office? When it first arrived I was excited by it and thought it was awesome, but after years of u…

I think you are the minority. Ribbon is much better.

Does it matter? What if ribbon is not so popular, would that mean that Microsoft would actually listen and change? Or will it just go on like it always does?

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Post by FelixP » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 5:38 PM UTC

corin_ wrote: post #17

> I hate the ribbon in Windows 8 - that’s what most people said about the ribbon when it was first introduced in Microsoft Office 2007. And yet, it has become a great interface paradigm which makes features more visible and easier to use. Not 100% related to Windows 8, but am I in the minority of disliking the ribbon in Office? When it first arrived I was excited by it and thought it was awesome, but after years of u…

I would consider myself a longtime power user of both Powerpoint and Excel. I HATE the ribbon - it's much less efficient for most tasks (although it is prettier).

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Post by InclinedPlane » Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 7:07 PM UTC

bornhuetter wrote: post #38

InclinedPlane wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there you have it. MS needs everyone to like Windows 8. Period. They need grand mothers who might otherwise use an ipad to like windows 8. They need high school kids to like windows 8. They need pc power users to like windows 8. They've come fairly close to betting the company that they can create a singular experience that can be all things to all people.

Complete nonsense. They only need a sufficient number of people to like it. Even if not a single grandmother in the world likes it, they'll probably be fine. > a singular experience that can be all things to all people You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Grandma's ARM tablet is going to use Metro, and Joe Accountant is going to spend all day in the classic desktop environment. The only thing Joe is…

If MS was planning on selling a version of Windows 8 that didn't have Metro as the default UI then that argument would hold more water, but I don't see that being the case. Windows 8 would make a perfectly fine workstation OS in "old fashioned windows UI mode", but you need to go out of your way to get to that state. I think people are just as likely to live with Windows 7 or choose something else (Windows Server as a desktop OS, or ubuntu, for example) as they are to use Windows 8 if they don't like metro.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Post by spobo » Fri, Jun 22, 2012, 12:47 PM UTC

Windows 8 is designed for touch devices. Using a UI that's designed for touch with a non-touch input SUCKS!

Do we need touch on a desktop or laptop? NO! I'll never touch my screen on a laptop or a desktop. It's tiring and clunky.

Do we need touch on tablets? Obviously.

Does everyone want a tablet? NO! I don't want one to do my main work on. I can't imagine I'm the only one here.

The problem is that microsoft is slowly transforming their main operating system and its application ecosystem to the touch-friendly metro-style.

So what's happening is ... MS is alienating their non-touch userbase. Which is now oooh ... let's say 99%?

I'll never feel comfortable using an interface designed for touch with a mouse & keyboard. And I'll never feel comfortable fondling a standing screen either from a laptop or desktop. So please don't force developers to develop for your touch ecosystem as I won't be using it.