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> where he has citizenship Durov is being persecuted for his role as a CEO of Telegram. Telegram is a legal entity that has nothing to do with France
That's obviously false. Telegram is providing services to French and EU citizens.
I wonder why Durov traveled to France, knowing that he would be arrested there. Could there be more to the story?
He did not know that he would be arrested there. The plane tried to leave Paris airspace at the last minute, but it was too late. Durov should have known that he could be arrested. Basically, arrogance and wishful thinking, complacency, believing in "democracy". Still, UAE will probably get him out.
The speculation on this situation is crazy. People are losing their minds over the idea of Durov being arrested over crimes committed on his platform, but we don’t even know the details. For all we know he could have been completely complicit. Hold your horses people.
> the idea of Durov being arrested I don't know him but the idea that an individual CEO would be handled in this way seems extreme and calls into question the actual motives of the French government. > For all we know he could have been completely complicit. I guess he could be an international terrorist drug dealing pimp. > Hold your horses people. The French governments actions and communication on the subject has…
Is this an unintentional war by Europe on facebook, signal, etc? What will the outcome be? Will these services leave Europe? Will Europe change the rules ?
> If, however, the French are simply saying that Durov’s failure to police his users or respond promptly to French document requests is the crime (which I suspect is the case), then this represents a dramatic escalation in the online censorship wars. What it means is that European states are going to try to extraterritorially dictate to foreign companies what content those companies can and cannot host on foreign-bas…
There have been several arrests of drug dealers using whatsapp over the years. Do you have any official source that criminals on telegram are more? Or is it just a feeling you have?
> What it means is that European states are going to try to extraterritorially dictate to foreign companies what content those companies can and cannot host on foreign-based webservers It looks like the author failed to grab that Durov asked for the French nationality and therefore is a French citizen who must comply to French law. > Telegram is not the only company in the world which has a social media platform used…
The law professor bit is shocking, given the article basically revolves around it making “zero sense for Durov to do any of these things,” as if criminality is always rational. But crypto has broadly come out in support of Durov [2].
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/27/technology/telegram-crypt...
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Yes. An employee can impersonate a user by registering a device in their name and intercepting the confirmation code and then read all non secret chats and private groups of that user. At least one employee must have the ability to intercept the code. (Unless the user has 2fa enabled, but that is not the default configuration.) There are probably easier ways if we knew more about how the administrate their infrastruc…
Maybe? When you login from a new device you're asked to provide an OTP so maybe there is at least that layer of protection and, hopefully, requires some circumvention at the application code level. However I think the real question is: even if that's possible, can law enforcement compel Durov or an employee to do so?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. An employee can impersonate a user by registering a device in their name and intercepting the confirmation code and then read all non secret chats and private groups of that user. At least one employee must have the ability to intercept the code. (Unless the user has 2fa enabled, but that is not the default configuration.) There are probably easier ways if we knew more about how the administrate their infrastruc…
Maybe? When you login from a new device you're asked to provide an OTP so maybe there is at least that layer of protection and, hopefully, requires some circumvention at the application code level. However I think the real question is: even if that's possible, can law enforcement compel Durov or an employee to do so?
The E2E encrypted comms are a red herring. There is plenty on Telegram that is public, plaintext and presumably illegal.
If Telegram refused to respond (note: not bend over and comply, just respond) to French legal requests in respect of plaintext criminal behaviour the way any other company would and should, that’s somewhat damning. If Durov went above and beyond and interacted with that content, his goose—as the author put it—is cooked.
Strange, I haven't found any articles that mention the "Find People Nearby" and "Make Myself Visible" features, which seems to be core features criminals use to sell drugs/sex, finding new random clients in the area. The public non-encrypted aliases or bio of users often contain wordings that explicitly spell out they sell drugs or sex. For instance, one alias is "WEED COKE MDMA SPE..." I don't have a clear opinion o…
I always was under assumption that these are all fake. There are ~300 people living nearby me. 5 are dealers and 10 prostitutes according to telegram.