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Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

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Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

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post #24

https://xcancel.com/emergetools/status/1828490449881047401

This is the worst Twitter proxy I've ever seen. It's got one of those idiotic "wait x seconds to view this page" and then a "reload the page". It's like a spam interstitial you get when you're trying to view illegal streams. I can't believe anyone not affiliated with it would post it. Awful tool.

And still a better experience than going to xitter directly. I, for one, appreciate the link.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To collect data so they can do marketing and advertising to customers.

How does that work here? Say I have that toothbrush, the app, and say I had to sign up to use it. What they know is how long the toothbrush is on. How are they going to monetize that data?

You know the underpants gnomes, it's like that:

Step 1: collect data

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Profit

Hopefully you sell the company between Step 1 and 2.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To collect data so they can do marketing and advertising to customers.

How does that work here? Say I have that toothbrush, the app, and say I had to sign up to use it. What they know is how long the toothbrush is on. How are they going to monetize that data?

Well, say the app requests access to your contacts... so you can link up with friends! Or your files... so it can save your data locally! Or your location... well i don't know. The app doesn't only check your bruhing habits, it's 300mb! At any point it could be updated to do any amount of spying and you'll never be able to tell

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#76
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I disagree. High res images are big no matter what way you cut it, and my mobile resolution is 2550x1800 - I don’t mind the detail. But I don’t need that detail for 15 different toothbrush models.

A 3840x2160 jpeg image at 100% quality is somewhere between 2 and 3 MB, so 15 models makes 45 MB, still way short of + 300 MB for the app.

2.5MB is about an order of magnitude larger than the OP's hundreds of KB. I'd be fine with 3MB.

But they should still be pulled on demand.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#77
post #12

More embarrassing than the size itself is that it is supposedly required to change the mode of the toothbrush. I truly do not think this should be allowed, but I’m not sure how to approach enforcing it.

Why do we need legislation against this? Just don't buy the toothbrush and let the product die of natural causes

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#78
post #12

More embarrassing than the size itself is that it is supposedly required to change the mode of the toothbrush. I truly do not think this should be allowed, but I’m not sure how to approach enforcing it.

Well, challenge number one is having a consumer protection agency that's legally empowered to pull products that are defective by design from the market. Second challenge is precisely defining what is and is not allowed, but given the sheer number of stupid things that a business could conceivably do to fuck with their customers, I'm willing to give such an agency a fair amount of latitude to evaluate things and make…

You are wildly optimistic about the competency of government

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#79
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is it not okay to ship them directly?

How many toothbrush models do you think the average person who downloads this app owns?

Does it uses the pictures in some other ways like a list of available upgrades?

Otherwise they save all the traffic and put it on the appstores and users and when they use some service for analytics they don’t need to run any server themselves. Oral-B probably sells worldwide putting everything in the app instead of fetching it maybe saves them good money.

Re: Why is the Oral-B iOS app almost 300 MB? And why is Colgate's app even bigger..?

#80
post #10
post #5

So it’s all just stupidly big PDFs used as images of the different models? Not what I was expecting. I was expecting it to be more like the Colgate app mentioned later in thread.

That’s insane. They should absolutely, 100% be pulled on demand.

I think there’s nothing wrong with shipping the images, why should you need an Internet connection to pair your toothbrush (which of your using the app you must want to do).

But why can’t they be vector images? The pictures in the tweet looks like they could easily be replaced by vectors and the difference would be nearly unnoticeable.

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