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No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Note that this is for apartments - smoking inside an apartment can easily spread to other units. I live next to a neighbor who smokes, and as a former smoker I don't feel I can complain that much, but there is often a persistent smell of smoke in my home.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Note that this is for apartments - smoking inside an apartment can easily spread to other units. I live next to a neighbor who smokes, and as a former smoker I don't feel I can complain that much, but there is often a persistent smell of smoke in my home.

Yeah I don't see this as that crazy. My entire apartment complex (albeit in Oregon, not California) is smoke-free and the smokers have to go out to the sidewalk to do it.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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OT, but I was at a playground with the kids over the weekend and they were playing in a section that was all sand. While we were playing it struck me that there were no cigarette butts anywhere in sight. As a kid there were cigarette butts everywhere--you'd always have to scoop around them when you were playing in the sand and they'd be littered around the edges of the grass, walkways, etc.

Really made me think of how different it is today and how out of place smoking around children is.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Clickbait, because the law only applies "inside apartments, condos and other shared buildings where multiple families live."

This law already exists in many cities and should exist everywhere. It's one thing to smoke in your own detached house, but when you share walls with others, smoking becomes harmful to others' health, too, not just your own.

My downstairs neighbor smokes heavily and burns incense all day and night, and it's bad enough that I'm seriously considering moving. Sometimes I can see smoke visibly rising from the floor. This would not be a problem if the city I lived in had common-sense laws against smoking inside multi-unit buildings.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Note that this is for apartments - smoking inside an apartment can easily spread to other units. I live next to a neighbor who smokes, and as a former smoker I don't feel I can complain that much, but there is often a persistent smell of smoke in my home.

It's not just apartments, also Condos and other shared buildings..so would a duplex count?

As someone who doesn't smoke and hates the smell of both cigarette and weed, this is great but if someone bought a one half of a duplex and then couldn't smoke at home? Seems a bit overreach. With property prices rising, fewer people can live in single family homes.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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OT, but I was at a playground with the kids over the weekend and they were playing in a section that was all sand. While we were playing it struck me that there were no cigarette butts anywhere in sight. As a kid there were cigarette butts everywhere--you'd always have to scoop around them when you were playing in the sand and they'd be littered around the edges of the grass, walkways, etc. Really made me think of ho…

Right! And there was always dog poop everywhere too :(

And I remember watching E.T. in the cinema when it came out and you could barely see the screen for the amount of cigarette smoke.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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Wouldn't the obvious solution be to make the apartments airtight, so as to avoid everything from smoke to cooking smells to whatever bothering your neighbors?

Isn't second-hand (passive smoking) shown to not increase cancer[0]? Really trying to understand this "we don't like something so we will ban it for everyone!" thing.

Isn't your home supposed to be sacred? Sovereign? Aren't the YIMBY people always telling me that apartments are just as good as Single Family Homes and only people who hate the planet want to live in SFH?

[0]: No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/105/24/1844/2517805

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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post #5

Clickbait, because the law only applies "inside apartments, condos and other shared buildings where multiple families live." This law already exists in many cities and should exist everywhere. It's one thing to smoke in your own detached house, but when you share walls with others, smoking becomes harmful to others' health, too, not just your own. My downstairs neighbor smokes heavily and burns incense all day and ni…

Thanks for that context. That makes a huge difference to me. I'd march in the streets for your right to do something I detest inside your own house, and protesting the extreme lengths someone would have to go to in order to enforce a ban. No smoking in a building shared with a bunch of other people? Bummer for the smokers, but yeah, my asthma agrees with you.

Re: No smoking in your own home, California city orders residents

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post #5

Clickbait, because the law only applies "inside apartments, condos and other shared buildings where multiple families live." This law already exists in many cities and should exist everywhere. It's one thing to smoke in your own detached house, but when you share walls with others, smoking becomes harmful to others' health, too, not just your own. My downstairs neighbor smokes heavily and burns incense all day and ni…

Yeah this title is pretty terrible. The HN guidelines [1] state

  please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.
This title smells pretty linkbait to me. Especially since "no smoking in your apartment" would have been more accurate (it also applies to homes you don't own, e.g. if you are renting).

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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