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What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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I'm not really in to these Windows 8 discussions, basically because I'm not using Windows myself, but the main argument against Windows 8 that I have come across so far was that there are two different interfaces.

As I understand this new interface is called the Metro interface, which (without having it used) looks promising, bu t is totally different than the old Windows interface (which I have used).

It seems to me as if Microsoft couldn't finish the Metro interface so it was a good replacement for the old interface, so they just kept the old interface as a backup.

But then again, this is coming from someone who hasn't used Windows 8 in any way.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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A lot of people will switch to Mac and Linux soon ;) Why should anyone like this design fail? They really need to explain their operating system to their customer. OS X is simple to use and everyone know how it works if you start using it. Windows was never logical or intuitive to use and Windows 8 confirm it again.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Most people bashing Windows 8 have not really used it, or were not using Windows 7. I recently upgraded, and most of the time, I hardly realise I am in Windows 8. All my desktop apps work the same, I have all my apps pinned to the Dock (like in OS-X or Windows 7), and the few times I need to go to the start menu, I move my window to the left and then type in the name of the app I am looking for.

I have had zero interaction with metro or any new windows 8 features, because they stay completely out of your way. When you see someone demonstrating windows 8 on youtube, it looks like you will suddenly be plunged into using metro only or things will change, but that's just wrong: Windows 8 is practically the same as Windows 7 for anyone who actually works with Windows.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Hardly any arguments in that article at all, besides 'if you use Windows 8 long enough you will eventually learn how it works' and 'stop complaining, Windows 8 is the future'.

Windows 95 and XP/2000 didn't actually have a user-friendly interface either, in fact, I think it was downright terrible. Yet, everyone knows how to use it, which makes it appear 'easy' and 'user-friendly'. This article completely steers around the fact that user-friendly interfaces have to be intuitive, consistent, and predictable.

Metro could become all of these, but as long as Microsoft keeps insisting on trying to fuse it with the traditional Windows desktop interface, it will never reach it's full potential.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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Yeah, pretty weak arguments there. Somehow what some people claim or have said is supposed to apply to me?

I don't know about others complaining about ribbon on office, but I loved it when it launched, and I loved every Facebook iteration except the last one. I'm an early adopter, and not only does stuff I adopt early have an incredibly high success rate, but there aren't many things that are successful that I don't like (twitter is the big counter example for me...still don't really use it).

However, from what I've seen of Win8 it's a terrible step backward in a blind attempt to compete with Apple. What Microsoft doesn't understand is that Apple has a separate OS for their desktops for a reason. iOS is a useless piece of gimpware for doing anything productive - it is primarily a consumption device, and the iPad will never replace the desktop as productivity (don't cite some anecdotal story as a counter example - we're talking broad strokes here, not one weird dude.). Hopefully one day the keyboard and mouse will be replaced, but currently they're the most efficient mechanism for interacting with a computer that is available. It appears Microsoft is pushing a product that is abandoning it's entire revenue (businesses) for some small market of people who buy iPads. (Which is a market they will likely have trouble in, given how successful WP7 has been.)

Now to the ribbon. It's a great design for applications that involve rich editing - like office, or even photoshop or 3dsmax. Something that requires a complex set of verbs that are hard to remember. Explorer is not an editor - it's a browser. The ribbon is wasting space, and is obviously the result of some bandwagon PM that thinks copying everything successful is a good way to design because they have no creativity or understanding themselves. Instead of figuring out why things work (ribbon, ipad), they simply try to copy them, but miss the whole point and make it bad.

Win8 is the new Windows ME. This is coming from a Win7 users, who thought Vista was awesome, had every iteration of the Zune, and thought Zune HD was the best music player ever.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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There is waaay too much focus on metro. Which is kind of natural since it is new and different, but because of the focus on metro people get confused and honestly think that there is nothing but metro in windows 8.

Metro is targeted towards Media Centers, tablets and casual consumption. Not workstations. If you are not doing your work on an iPad today you probably won't do work in metro tomorrow. Simple as that. The media and the PR department of MS of course would like you to think otherwise (just to hype it) but that is pure lunacy, of course you will have a real workstation OS as well (and that is also where you will do your work).

The thing I look forward to in windows 8 is that it will probably be the first OS that is suitable for a tablet as well as being able to actually do something useful with it. For the first time the tablet will not be a toy but actually real, albeit niche, alternative to a laptop. That is huge, and that is what windows 8 brings to the market.

Re: What Windows 8 Haters Don’t Understand About Windows 8

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post #7

Hardly any arguments in that article at all, besides 'if you use Windows 8 long enough you will eventually learn how it works' and 'stop complaining, Windows 8 is the future'. Windows 95 and XP/2000 didn't actually have a user-friendly interface either, in fact, I think it was downright terrible. Yet, everyone knows how to use it, which makes it appear 'easy' and 'user-friendly'. This article completely steers around…

They were very user friendly. They might not have been beginner-friendly but that is a short-sighted goal to aim for.
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