Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
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Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#2Lots of movement around Firefox lately.
The possibility of the google money going away as a result of the antitrust ruling must be really shaking them to the core over at Mozilla.
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#3> Mozilla watcher Sören Hentzschel points out [1] that the release notes do not indicate that this service collects data. This means that end users were not aware that the service was forwarding data to Mozilla, which is remarkable for a browser provider that claims to value (data) privacy.
I don't think the second sentence can/should be inferred from the first. Just the fact that the removal isn't called out in the release notes, doesn't mean that users weren't informed about it when it was present.
There's probably something to be said about whether it was mentioned clearly enough (and on whether it should have been present in the first place), but the release notes of a future version is not where I'd expect to find information about data collection.
(I work for Mozilla, but not on Firefox and wasn't involved with this.)
[1] https://www.soeren-hentzschel.at/firefox-android/mozilla-ent...
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#4Lots of movement around Firefox lately. The possibility of the google money going away as a result of the antitrust ruling must be really shaking them to the core over at Mozilla.
> possibility of the google money going away
That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#5Lots of movement around Firefox lately. The possibility of the google money going away as a result of the antitrust ruling must be really shaking them to the core over at Mozilla.
> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
I'm out of the loop here, can someone explain?
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#6> Mozilla watcher Sören Hentzschel points out [1] that the release notes do not indicate that this service collects data. This means that end users were not aware that the service was forwarding data to Mozilla, which is remarkable for a browser provider that claims to value (data) privacy. I don't think the second sentence can/should be inferred from the first. Just the fact that the removal isn't called out in the…
It's a complete mistranslation of what Sören wrote. He just noted the missing change log entry, as you said.
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#7Lots of movement around Firefox lately. The possibility of the google money going away as a result of the antitrust ruling must be really shaking them to the core over at Mozilla.
> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
Without that deal, there wouldn’t be a Firefox. If/when it’s gone, there’s no one capable/willing to fund Mozilla to that amount.
Really there’s only 1 other company who can throw that level of money at us and it’s Microsoft. Without Google bidding up the price, doubtful they would pay as much for Bing to be the default search and it’s not like Firefox users would welcome that change.
Free software doesn’t work for long without some sort of corporate sponsorship at some point, and it’s not in anyone’s interest to fund it at this point. (And don’t say “the EU should” most Europeans are not clamoring for their governments to spend money on an American browser company with web compatibility issues that no one tests against)
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
I'm out of the loop here, can someone explain?
All of the funding for Firefox (or nearly all?) comes from Google. There is no way for you as a private person to donate money to firefox development. That of course means that Mozilla needs to keep its large donner happy lest the money go away.
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#10Every large non-profit in the tech/software space eventually becomes a non-profit that happens to do software, rather than a software organization incorporated as a non-profit. Wikimedia, Mozilla, Canonical, etc.