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Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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"It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform." What an utter ridiculous and misleading statement from the company that LITERALLY REFUSES to take down drug and malware shops from its platform. There's tens of academic studies that have looked at this problem and many of them have Telegram as the worst offender. Here's just one of the studies: https://cyber.fsi.stanford…

What’s the source for your “LITERALLY REFUSES” claim?

The study you linked names instagram as “the most important platform”…

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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post #2

"It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform." What an utter ridiculous and misleading statement from the company that LITERALLY REFUSES to take down drug and malware shops from its platform. There's tens of academic studies that have looked at this problem and many of them have Telegram as the worst offender. Here's just one of the studies: https://cyber.fsi.stanford…

Telegram does not refuse take down content. I have reported scams, phishing, selling stolen credit cards and such to Telegram and they have all taken down. Maybe not in 24h, but still taken down.

Also from your study: “Our investigation finds that large networks of accounts, purportedly operated by minors, are openly advertising SG-CSAM for sale on social media. Instagram has emerged as the primary platform for such networks, providing features that facilitate connections between buyers and sellers. Instagram's popularity and user-friendly interface make it a preferred option for these activities.”

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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> It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform As the law places certain responsibilities onto platforms, if you (any platform not just Telegram) say this kind of thing, are you sure you're following the law right, or are you just saying the law is wrong and bad?

Not a good start if they start shouting about the Digital Services Act, which of course has nothing to do with their CEO being arrested at an airport.

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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post #2

"It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform." What an utter ridiculous and misleading statement from the company that LITERALLY REFUSES to take down drug and malware shops from its platform. There's tens of academic studies that have looked at this problem and many of them have Telegram as the worst offender. Here's just one of the studies: https://cyber.fsi.stanford…

Facebook is also full of drug and malware shops and advertisements for such.

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Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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Can't the EU make their own messaging app?

Wasn't Matrix in the running for this? And Threema is the standard in Switzerland, I believe.

Well, Matrix is incorporated in the UK, not a member state of the EU, and Switzerland also isn’t a member state of the EU.

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is also full of drug and malware shops and advertisements for such.

Meta will take down those ads if reported. What is important when it comes to regulators is not whether you fail to comply or not. It is whether you take your responsibility to comply seriously e.g. timely responses to information requests, continuous process improvement etc.

like they did with Cambridge Analytica I guess...

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't Matrix in the running for this? And Threema is the standard in Switzerland, I believe.

Well, Matrix is incorporated in the UK, not a member state of the EU, and Switzerland also isn’t a member state of the EU.

well, when Matrix was founded, UK was still part of the EU

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The priority for regulators are money laundering, sanctions evasion, terrorism, CSAM, trafficking etc. Serious crimes where people's lives are at stake. Scams in general are towards the bottom on everyone's priority list.

Why are you changing the focus to regulators and not meta moderation which is what you claimed that is done? (and many proved in this thread that no they don't remove content that breaks local laws).

Because company behaviour is a reflection of the laws in the places it operates.

Re: Telegram abides by EU laws, including the Digital Services Act

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post #9

> It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform As the law places certain responsibilities onto platforms, if you (any platform not just Telegram) say this kind of thing, are you sure you're following the law right, or are you just saying the law is wrong and bad?

> > It is absurd to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible for abuse of that platform Didn't some crypto mixer coin network creator just get found guilty for this?

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