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Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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what's in the "middle of lidl" this week? Drill bits, car shampoo and a kubernetes cluster. Nice.

Seems like "beauty" health products and bedroom stuff this week. Monday well drill bits and tools... Which reminds me that I need to pick up some cheap pliers...

Kitchen and Garden stuff over here.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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I run a European cloud service, 80% of our customers are basically looking for a European alternative to the big clouds. The market is huge and in my opinion underserved. What makes it very exciting is that there not too much innovation required to compete

Do you compete in some kind of a niche? There is OVH in EU.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Gaia-X is a disaster. The article misrepresents it. Gaia-X is not a framework for what a European cloud should look like. This would be useful. In beautiful EU bureaucratic style It's a framework for how to talk about how a European Cloud could look like. It's not about technical standards. It's about how we can talk about how we can think of maybe eventually deciding on how we can come up with standards that might o…

Wow, 5 years later and what have they actually accomplished? Look at the milestones section: https://gaia-x.eu/what-is-gaia-x/about-gaia-x/

This is too funny.

What's to stop an American cloud hyperscaler from creating a "properly patriated" subsidiary that it simply licenses the tech to? Wouldn't that side step the "sovereign" protectionism?

An American company would run circles around this mess.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Being a European, I’d love to try this. Many businesses operate completely local. I think there is a market for a Europe-only cloud provider. How do I try this? Do they have a free tier?

Exoscale has a simple sign up, with a credit of EUR 20 to get you started.

(I work there, and my job tomorrow is to get my 2 apprentices new accounts so they can start following the self-paced training in the Exoscale Academy.)

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Seems like "beauty" health products and bedroom stuff this week. Monday well drill bits and tools... Which reminds me that I need to pick up some cheap pliers...

Kitchen and Garden stuff over here.

Someday it might be interesting to see article or video on just how Lidl's logistics and supply chain works on these special products. There is the staples, but how these shorter run campaigns are rotated around.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Yea this is so gonna work with them paying 50-60k/pa for engineers. Seriously DACH mentality and influence has been devastating on serious tech development in Europe

What is Dach mentality? I've googled the definition but can't seem anything that fits in this context.

Probably the old-school mentality of pay hierarchies: Managers must earn more than subordinates. Thus if the salary expectation of a high skilled engineer is higher than some of the management class, it's often viewed as obscene. Usually as an engineer you achieve certain salary levels only with additional management duties.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Wow, 5 years later and what have they actually accomplished? Look at the milestones section: https://gaia-x.eu/what-is-gaia-x/about-gaia-x/

This is too funny. What's to stop an American cloud hyperscaler from creating a "properly patriated" subsidiary that it simply licenses the tech to? Wouldn't that side step the "sovereign" protectionism? An American company would run circles around this mess.

That's exactly what is going on nowadays, anyway. In Poland we have Chmura Krajowa (national cloud), aimed at public, non profit and finance companies. It's basically more controlled local Azure and GPC region.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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or: the EU is serious about citizen privacy and addressing the flagrant disregard for it that the major adtech players have shown. If LIDL can compete on price/features/performance _and_ comply with the laws, then good luck to them. Equally, if the big US companies comply, then there's nothing excluding them from the market. They're already present as you note.

After arresting Pavel Durov on specious charges yesterday? Seems more like protectionism with that context.

The EU didn't arrest Durov, France did.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Gaia-X is a disaster. The article misrepresents it. Gaia-X is not a framework for what a European cloud should look like. This would be useful. In beautiful EU bureaucratic style It's a framework for how to talk about how a European Cloud could look like. It's not about technical standards. It's about how we can talk about how we can think of maybe eventually deciding on how we can come up with standards that might o…

Wow, 5 years later and what have they actually accomplished? Look at the milestones section: https://gaia-x.eu/what-is-gaia-x/about-gaia-x/

As I get older and a little lazier, sometimes I think I might want to find a way to get a completely pointless job that gives me a paycheck where all I have to do is write documents that nobody ever reads.

Then I look at something like this Gaia-X "milestones" list and think "Meh, this is probably not the job for me..."

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Germany, Austria, Swiss (swiss-german) mentality In a nutshell: German speakers mentality

But I mean what is that mentality

As a french speaking Swiss I'm pretty biased, but I'd say it comes down to salary thriftiness to the detriment of innovation, practicality to the detriment of flexibility, and perfection to the detriment of velocity.

If you happen to want your supplier to be slow, extremely reliable, and you don't mind paying for the high profit margin they expect to be able to extract, you'll be a perfect customer of a DACH-mentality company. There are hundreds of niche categories where they dominate the market, including machine tools, forging, factory automation, etc.

But don't write off DACH: there are plenty of companies in DACH that run circles around their competitors by blending typically DACH traits with agility.

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