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Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Post by waihtis »

outside1234 wrote: post #2

This is not about privacy or sovereign clouds because at least AWS and Azure have those already in Europe. It’s about protectionism and tweaking the law to favor local companies.

How so - Lidl created something for their own demand, and started selling it to externals and found demand. Nothing protectionist in that

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Post by mantas »

outside1234 wrote: post #2

This is not about privacy or sovereign clouds because at least AWS and Azure have those already in Europe. It’s about protectionism and tweaking the law to favor local companies.

Yes. And it works when implemented correctly. See China.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Post by KingOfCoders »

outside1234 wrote: post #2

This is not about privacy or sovereign clouds because at least AWS and Azure have those already in Europe. It’s about protectionism and tweaking the law to favor local companies.

Not with direct control from the US - with AWS there is no privacy or sovereignity difference between EU-CENTRAL-1 or US-EAST-1 - you might tick a compliancy checkbox though. But sooner or later there will be more pressure and AWS and Azure will create legally independent companies in the EU to manage clouds in the EU.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Post by skrebbel »

outside1234 wrote: post #2

This is not about privacy or sovereign clouds because at least AWS and Azure have those already in Europe. It’s about protectionism and tweaking the law to favor local companies.

If AWS gets a letter from an American 3-letter agency to plz turn over this and that data and don't tell anyone, they're going to comply, no matter what kind of paper "privacy shield" agreement the politicians negotiated this time around.

Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing

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Post by mantas »

waihtis wrote: post #5
outside1234 wrote: post #2

This is not about privacy or sovereign clouds because at least AWS and Azure have those already in Europe. It’s about protectionism and tweaking the law to favor local companies.

How so - Lidl created something for their own demand, and started selling it to externals and found demand. Nothing protectionist in that

There are some protectionist-like tendencies in europe and that’s fine. Both laws trying to push for as much local parts as possible and buying agencies preference for local providers by tweaking purchasing terms here and there.
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