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Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by amatecha »

rl3 wrote: post #100
modeless wrote: post #31

I just ported Quake III to the web with multiplayer and mobile support: https://thelongestyard.link/ . I was hoping I could use this project to do Unreal Tournament as well, but it seems like it's not that playable yet. I wish Epic had GPL'd their old releases the way id Software did. I'd especially like to have UT2k4. I played a lot of ONS-Torlan in college. Instead of UT I may do Serious Sam next. Serious Engine wa…

> I'd especially like to have UT2k4. Honorable mention to UT2k3's menu music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IberpcWz9mU#t=0m10s The NFL themes had nothing on it.

It kinda makes me want to play WarCraft II haha, similar awesome vibes!!

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by archagon »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #116
epolanski wrote: post #106

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Even the latest UT on UE4 had like few hundreds of players at best. Seems like the genre is just not popular.

With the genre being FPS, or what? I'm not really a gamer. When I discovered original UT I'd play it at work because my home computers never had good enough graphics. I loved the atmosphere of many user-created maps. Is there no similar experience that's popular today?

Arena FPS of the Quake/UT era have been supplanted by CoD-style tactical shooters, slower team-based FPS like Halo, hero shooters like Overwatch, and battle royale shooters like Apex Legends. I don’t think a popular pure arena shooter exists today. (Though Splitgate and, to a lesser extent, Halo Infinite scratch the same itch for me.)

I’m optimistic, though. Adventure games were dead for a while but eventually came back with a vengeance. I doubt the desire for quick, pure shooty fun will ever go away.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by sho_hn »

modeless wrote: post #51
jamesu wrote: post #49

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I'm half-way porting another turn of the century game engine to emscripten but I'm a little stuck on the networking so it's pretty cool being able to have practical examples to reference.

Cool, which one? I've also done Cave Story https://thelongestyard.link/cave-story/ and I'd like to do a bunch of the old shareware classics as well. Multiplayer on the web is tricky. For non-action games you can get away with WebSockets but for arena shooters or other action games I think UDP is important, and you can only get that with WebRTC and all the baggage that comes with it. I'm using a library called HumbleN…

I did Tomb Raider a while back:

https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/

I'll upstream the work to tr1x (which I contribute to) at some point.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by anthk »

Narishma wrote: post #114
anthk wrote: post #68

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Yup. SurrealEnegine should run fine at least on 64/128MB video card suppporting SDL2 and Open GL 2.1 (or GL 1.4 by hacking up the engine renderer like crazy). There's no point on reimplementing a game needing either a propietary engine (cough, cough, OpenMafia's switch into Unity) and/or a modern one with crazy requeriments defying the original purpose of replaying a game when a low end machine can't run a 20-24 year…

As far as I can tell from a quick look at the source, it only seems to support Vulkan as a rendering API.

These might be available soon. Is not like the community didn't mess with UT and Deus Ex renderers since forever. That's how GMDX works today on DX9/GL video cards (and even DX10 and 11).

Also, Deus Ex it's one of the most played games ever due to its cult status (and, well, people loves conspiracy theories on the 9/11 and the Covid and in-game terror attacks). Having a GL 2.1 renderer (even a software one) will be one of the first succesful tasks being done.

I'm pretty sure even PPC Amigans would love playing it on their machines.

DX might be like the old Nethack 3.4.3 which have been ported everywhere, even to more platforms than Doom.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by bravetraveler »

klaussilveira wrote: post #43
kridsdale3 wrote: post #37

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Tim Sweeney is not quite as much of a bro of the people as John Carmack is. Sadly, as I like the guy otherwise.

His tweet on Linux a few years ago comes to mind: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/964284402741149698 And Epic's removal of titles from stores: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-are-killing...

The Linux bit is so backwards. I realize I'm preaching to the choir.

His thinking perpetuates the problem, doing the more laborious thing of supporting Linux will net more freedom

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by zdragnar »

archagon wrote: post #122
DidYaWipe wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the genre being FPS, or what? I'm not really a gamer. When I discovered original UT I'd play it at work because my home computers never had good enough graphics. I loved the atmosphere of many user-created maps. Is there no similar experience that's popular today?

Arena FPS of the Quake/UT era have been supplanted by CoD-style tactical shooters, slower team-based FPS like Halo, hero shooters like Overwatch, and battle royale shooters like Apex Legends. I don’t think a popular pure arena shooter exists today. (Though Splitgate and, to a lesser extent, Halo Infinite scratch the same itch for me.) I’m optimistic, though. Adventure games were dead for a while but eventually came b…

I had played UT2k4 almost exclusively for months before ever trying halo, since I didn't own a console. I eventually played at a get together at a friend's house and genuinely couldn't understand why Halo was so popular- the speed was so slow.

I eventually appreciated it a bit more, but UT will always have a special place in my heart.

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Post by oneshtein »

DANmode wrote: post #118
oneshtein wrote: post #54

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Tactical-Ops: Assault on Terror was very good. However, Urban Terror was good replacement, when it was alive.

Is it slow, or truly dead? Urban Terror's death has been exaggerated before =]

Urban Terror in Fedora cannot be ran, unless symlink from /usr/share/ to user /home/ is made. When I ran it anyway, I saw zero users at all servers and maps, including Eagle.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by modeless »

sho_hn wrote: post #123
modeless wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool, which one? I've also done Cave Story https://thelongestyard.link/cave-story/ and I'd like to do a bunch of the old shareware classics as well. Multiplayer on the web is tricky. For non-action games you can get away with WebSockets but for arena shooters or other action games I think UDP is important, and you can only get that with WebRTC and all the baggage that comes with it. I'm using a library called HumbleN…

I did Tomb Raider a while back: https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/ I'll upstream the work to tr1x (which I contribute to) at some point.

Wow, this is awesome! Is your fork public? I'd love to try adding some stuff like touch controls and save file syncing like I've done for Cave Story https://thelongestyard.link/cave-story/

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by extraduder_ire »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #37
modeless wrote: post #31

I just ported Quake III to the web with multiplayer and mobile support: https://thelongestyard.link/ . I was hoping I could use this project to do Unreal Tournament as well, but it seems like it's not that playable yet. I wish Epic had GPL'd their old releases the way id Software did. I'd especially like to have UT2k4. I played a lot of ONS-Torlan in college. Instead of UT I may do Serious Sam next. Serious Engine wa…

Tim Sweeney is not quite as much of a bro of the people as John Carmack is. Sadly, as I like the guy otherwise.

I think it was someone other than Carmack that was pushing for source releases and linux ports inside of Id. They stopped doing it a while before Carmack left even.
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