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Re: Accident Forgiveness

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Nobody is going to charge you $100k.

(ignores the multiple hobbyists who accidentally got charged $100k)

My belief, and you can correct me on this if you have evidence to the contrary, is that nobody actually pays those bills.

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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That would be what you would pay in the absence of competition. This is an incredibly competitive space.

Then how do AWS, Azure and GCP charge 100 times the amount for bandwidth as other hosting providers and the IP transit quote sitting in my email inbox?

Why isn't one of those providers roflstomping the other 3 (add OCI to the mix) with better pricing?

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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Depends. For my hobby project that hasn't been monetized, being charged $100k is way worse than it going down. If it were critical infrastructure, or monetized in a way that brought in revenue to cover the charge, then maybe I don't want it to shut down despite skyrocketing costs, but that's hardly the only situation you could be in.

Nobody is going to charge you $100k.

Perhaps that is true, but the stress and anxiety from seeing 100K bill is real and has an impact.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/06/17/20-y...

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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post #62
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then how do AWS, Azure and GCP charge 100 times the amount for bandwidth as other hosting providers and the IP transit quote sitting in my email inbox?

Why isn't one of those providers roflstomping the other 3 (add OCI to the mix) with better pricing?

Because they land your data in their systems by offering you a sweetheart deal in year 1-2 and then they jack the price back to the extortionate level once you're stuck. Compute is portable between providers, but data is not.

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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Nobody is going to charge you $100k.

(ignores the multiple hobbyists who accidentally got charged $100k)

Getting charged is not the same as paying those charges. I'm willing to bet real money that all who, in good faith, went and asked not to pay those bills ended up not paying them (if they didn't ask, that's a separate issue).

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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That would be what you would pay in the absence of competition. This is an incredibly competitive space.

Competition only matters for new contracts. Once you have picked a provider and made a big enough infrastructure investment, there's no realistic path to switch to someone else.

They laugh at me for constructing as much as I can from the infra as plain kubernetes objects.

Keep laughing, I can switch clouds in less time than you take for figuring out cloud costs.

Re: Accident Forgiveness

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post #61
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(ignores the multiple hobbyists who accidentally got charged $100k)

My belief, and you can correct me on this if you have evidence to the contrary, is that nobody actually pays those bills.

Someone paid those bills to somebody. AWS has costs incurred from it (support, opportunity, etc) and they paid them.
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