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Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by newfriend »

abeppu wrote: post #63
newfriend wrote: post #36

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read all about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin You can disagree with me all you want, but this guy was recalled as SF DA for letting criminals go. His wikipedia enumerates several cases of him doing just that. > In March 2020, Boudin charged 20-year-old Dwayne Grayson with elder abuse after he filmed 56-year-old Jonathan Amerson in February 2020 swinging a metal bar at an elderly Asian man in Bayview–Hu…

Except that even when the DA was trying to pursue stuff, the SFPD refused to help, and forced the DA's office to do stuff like move evidence in a U-haul truck. https://www.ksbw.com/article/sfpd-refused-to-help-stop-san-f...

I agree with you on this one case. But this was after years of him letting criminals go. This case was in the run up to the recall in which he was removed from office by SF voters for being too soft on crime.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by brigadier132 »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #88
brigadier132 wrote: post #51

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It's ideology fueled by fabricated science. Things like drug and petty crime decriminalization have just completely failed at achieving their goals and these policies were backed by studies that have consistently failed to replicate. The people behind these things are serious hard core ideologues. Remember Chesa Boudin? His parents were literal communist terrorists that murdered a cop while robbing a bank (when I say…

> How does someone like that become a DA? Presumably by going to law school, doing work in the DA's office, and eventually campaigning for election. His track record as DA notwithstanding, I think it should be obvious that the crimes of the parents are not the crimes of the child, and I think it's kinda funny that you'd make that claim in a thread about policing actual crime.

> that the crimes of the parents are not the crimes of the child

Yeah, this is some more idealistic nonsense. Children should obviously not be criminally persecuted for being the child of evil people but being the child of and raised by terrorists (and other evil people) should automatically disqualify you from certain jobs.

Given Chesa Boudin's actual track record and the fact he was recalled I think history proves my point.

> I think it's kinda funny that you'd make that claim in a thread about policing actual crime.

Why do you think it's funny? Chesa Boudin is directly responsible for the lack of policing due to his refusal to enforce the law as DA. Do you not know why he was recalled?

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

newfriend wrote: post #36
NorthTheRock wrote: post #28

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> DA refuses to prosecute crime Have there been any actual documented instances of this? I see it cited a lot, but rarely any specific names of DAs or cases attached to it, and it feels like an easy excuse for police to not even attempt to do their jobs.

read all about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin You can disagree with me all you want, but this guy was recalled as SF DA for letting criminals go. His wikipedia enumerates several cases of him doing just that. > In March 2020, Boudin charged 20-year-old Dwayne Grayson with elder abuse after he filmed 56-year-old Jonathan Amerson in February 2020 swinging a metal bar at an elderly Asian man in Bayview–Hu…

> 3 downvotes? really?

"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading" [1].

> guy was recalled as SF DA for letting criminals go

Your comment would be stronger if you cited something from the article, versus just presenting it unadorned. (And at risk of being a hypocrite, I upvoted your comment.)

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by bluGill »

jghn wrote: post #65
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39

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> Pulling over a citizen with a job and citing them for speeding is a much more lucrative use of their time The solution may be in segregating the police from the traffic cops. Policework is dangerous and specialised. Its officers need a lot of training and good pay. Traffic cops are basically humans trained to be cameras, inasmuchas 90% of what they do can be automated.

> Policework is dangerous Not nearly as much as people believe. Most lists of dangerous jobs in the US have police below jobs most people consider to be pretty mundane. For instance, this list [1] ranks it at #22. Below occupations like "garbage collector" and "crossing guard" [1] https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j...

garbage collectors and crossing guard are out there in traffic all day, and don't have the benefit of being near something people are afraid of (a police car). If that is your standard to cite it isn't very safe. Let me know how it compares to a more generic office worker.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

brigadier132 wrote: post #92
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #88

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> How does someone like that become a DA? Presumably by going to law school, doing work in the DA's office, and eventually campaigning for election. His track record as DA notwithstanding, I think it should be obvious that the crimes of the parents are not the crimes of the child, and I think it's kinda funny that you'd make that claim in a thread about policing actual crime.

> that the crimes of the parents are not the crimes of the child Yeah, this is some more idealistic nonsense. Children should obviously not be criminally persecuted for being the child of evil people but being the child of and raised by terrorists (and other evil people) should automatically disqualify you from certain jobs. Given Chesa Boudin's actual track record and the fact he was recalled I think history proves…

> being the child of and raised by terrorists (and other evil people) should automatically disqualify you from certain jobs

Wat.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by brigadier132 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #95
brigadier132 wrote: post #92

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> that the crimes of the parents are not the crimes of the child Yeah, this is some more idealistic nonsense. Children should obviously not be criminally persecuted for being the child of evil people but being the child of and raised by terrorists (and other evil people) should automatically disqualify you from certain jobs. Given Chesa Boudin's actual track record and the fact he was recalled I think history proves…

> being the child of and raised by terrorists (and other evil people) should automatically disqualify you from certain jobs Wat.

You think that the children of dictators, mass murderers and terrorists should be allowed to be politicians?

Here's a question for you, would you vote for the child of a KKK member?

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by bluGill »

stahtops wrote: post #84
pton_xd wrote: post #19

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That doesn't pay. Pulling over a citizen with a job and citing them for speeding is a much more lucrative use of their time. Both are against the law, so they're doing their job either way. Kind of. Although as another commenter noted, I've noticed they've become strangely lax about even citing moving violations since Covid. Makes you wonder what they are even doing, then.

My understanding is that moving violations are perceived as high risk, low reward. (1) The stop is dangerous because you don't know who the vehicle occupants are. If the driver is medium bad and runs, the public has low appetite for high speed pursuits that may cause collateral damage or put the public in danger. There's also the chance it's a very bad guy... someone in a stolen vehicle with a warrant out for a murde…

> the public has low appetite for high speed pursuits

Police officers should be training in high speed pursuits. This training exists and means they never happen (there are a number of things that if the police know mean there are no high speed chases - but they need a lot of training)

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #93
newfriend wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

read all about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin You can disagree with me all you want, but this guy was recalled as SF DA for letting criminals go. His wikipedia enumerates several cases of him doing just that. > In March 2020, Boudin charged 20-year-old Dwayne Grayson with elder abuse after he filmed 56-year-old Jonathan Amerson in February 2020 swinging a metal bar at an elderly Asian man in Bayview–Hu…

> 3 downvotes? really? "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading" [1]. > guy was recalled as SF DA for letting criminals go Your comment would be stronger if you cited something from the article, versus just presenting it unadorned. (And at risk of being a hypocrite, I upvoted your comment.) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by kayodelycaon »

0x457 wrote: post #62
kayodelycaon wrote: post #35

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Because stealing things is illegal in every state I know of.

Stealing things is illegal in every state - yes. However, stealing mail is a federal crime. There is a difference between stealing UPS package and stealing USPS package.

The same action can be illegal in multiple ways and across multiple jurisdictions. Murder is a federal crime, for example.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Post by yowzadave »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39
pton_xd wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't pay. Pulling over a citizen with a job and citing them for speeding is a much more lucrative use of their time. Both are against the law, so they're doing their job either way. Kind of. Although as another commenter noted, I've noticed they've become strangely lax about even citing moving violations since Covid. Makes you wonder what they are even doing, then.

> Pulling over a citizen with a job and citing them for speeding is a much more lucrative use of their time The solution may be in segregating the police from the traffic cops. Policework is dangerous and specialised. Its officers need a lot of training and good pay. Traffic cops are basically humans trained to be cameras, inasmuchas 90% of what they do can be automated.

Yes, also because (at least where I live in NYC) cops are flagrant violators of both traffic and parking laws. Follow a random cop car for a few minutes and you will undoubtedly see them run a red light. Walk to ANY precinct in the city and you will see the cops' personal cars parked all over the surrounding sidewalks. Reporting these issues, no surprise, accomplishes nothing--the cops simply close the ticket with the notice, "no action necessary".
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