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Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

There was a time when you didn't "need" a PC, either, and they were seen as just nerd toys and things yuppies used to balance their checkbooks, back when "balancing your checkbook" was a thing you had to do. This changed with the advent of the Web, and held until desktops gave way to smartphones. If you could time-travel back to the 80s and 90s, plenty of folks would have scoffed that anyone would ever "need" a computer, let alone a computer in their pocket. But a lot of that is because "a computer" was a bulky beige thing with a CRT monitor, and maybe if you were really into it a 2400 baud modem. But then you'd have to splurge for a second phone line or pick which device to use, the modem or the phone.

So I'd be wary of writing off AR/MR/XR as a dead end, as opposed to a technology that still needs more innovation to reach the mainstream. Glasses themselves are mainstream, and have been for centuries. What's holding AR devices back is the ability to miniaturize the necessary holographic technology, as well as the batteries and processing power. This will eventually be solved, just like an iPhone now has more processing power than the supercomputers of decades before.

The problem with VR will always remain the same. You can't interact with other people while you have a big thing on your face that's designed to supplant your entire field of view, which limits desirable use cases.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

I'm pretty convinced that AR and specifically headset AR is just a dead end. No amount of sensors or pixels are going to make it viable for anything besides some tiny niches. VR is fun and has some uses. Everything else just needs a tactile keyboard or touchscreen.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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Computer headsets. Blockchain. AI. Really hitting the mark recently.

I use all three of those things every day... Couldn't imagine my life without them now.

There are dozens of you, dozens!

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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> Or maybe these are just products we don't need? That's exactly it, they're products we don't -need-. If you already have a smartphone, that's good enough. This is the same problem that plagues the AI assistant devices - it doesn't matter what they can do, they won't replace your smartphone. Which means you're asking someone to carry (and pay for) a smartphone + an extra device. That's a big ask. It's also the reaso…

> they're products we don't -need-. If you already have a smartphone, that's good enough. I disagree. If LinkedIn made AR glasses that told me who the person is I’m looking at (that I’m connected to on LinkedIn) and why/how we were connected, I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

> If LinkedIn made AR glasses that told me who the person is I’m looking at (that I’m connected to on LinkedIn) and why/how we were connected, I’d buy that in a heartbeat.

The idea of wearing LinkedIn on my face makes my stomach churn, but while that's my personal reaction, is there a real world context you've found yourself in regularly enough that you've found yourself wanting such a product, or is it more like a conference thing? I can't even think of a physical space I've been in, ever, where there would be even one person that I'm both connected to on LinkedIn and don't know why.

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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The Vision Pro is a solution looking for a problem. This is the same problem plaguing Apple Home. It just feels very - so what? Tech nerds like it because it's "cool", but everybody else is wondering why would I ever need this thing? Personally, I think they need to be thinking of a more Apple Watch type device wearable in normal glasses frames. Something more akin to Google Glass, and yes, I'm familiar with the term…

> Or maybe these are just products we don't need? Silicon valley needs a product that will make us spend even more time online than our phones, in order to sell more ad inventory and make the line go up. This is pretty much what's driving all of this, especially the AR stuff. It's not a solution in search of a problem. The problem is they need to sell more ads. The only issue is that it's a solution to their problem,…

Or, on the other hand, AR could BLOCK all ads that you ever see. Sanitise your entire visual input, replace all ads with a grey square!

Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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If anything, what I’ve heard from friends at or adjacent to Meta is that they’re paring back metaverse ambitions and capabilities on their future devices because of the success of the Ray-Bans glasses and the relatively middling sales of the Quest 3. The Ray-Bans are also a weird anomaly since they’re leaning on the Ray-Bans designer pricing to justify a lot of the cost. If you’re already buying a pair of luxury sung…

I'm constantly losing, scratching, or breaking sunglasses. I buy them at $30 tops, not $300.

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Re: Meta cancels high-end mixed reality headset after Apple Vision Pro struggles

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If anything, what I’ve heard from friends at or adjacent to Meta is that they’re paring back metaverse ambitions and capabilities on their future devices because of the success of the Ray-Bans glasses and the relatively middling sales of the Quest 3. The Ray-Bans are also a weird anomaly since they’re leaning on the Ray-Bans designer pricing to justify a lot of the cost. If you’re already buying a pair of luxury sung…

I'm constantly losing, scratching, or breaking sunglasses. I buy them at $30 tops, not $300.

Sounds like there is an obvious feature for having FindMy / location beacons in your smart sunglasses.
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