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I am never going to want to spend 200k of my personal money on some project on a cloud. Never. I don't even want my ant-based basket viewing project simulator to cost me 1 thousand dollars because it went viral and all clouds overcharge for bandwith.
Just let me put in a limit.
It's unfortunate that the solution to cloud pricing complexity that all providers are adopting is – add even more complexity on top. The number you see on your bill is increasingly calculated by running some black box algorithm on top of the billing events your resources generate. Was it accidental or not? What is a "weird" deployment vs a normal deployment? By what factor should the spikes on your billing graph be s…
Given that the very teleology of cloud computing is digital & ephemeral resources, having an actual human face associated with it makes it tangible in a way that is hard to place.
My little brain can briefly understand complex computer systems on a need-to-know basis, with knowledge constantly coming and going based on the demands of the day. I can never fully "understand" my cloud infrastructure. But hey, Kurt's standing there. I like Kurt. I can understand Kurt as he's a human and so am I and he's in the same exact place I am. Let's work hard and make cool stuff, what do ya say Kurt?
One of the things I really admire about Fly is "how human they come across". Fly is a collection of people providing a computing service to other people. As a fellow human, there is a very primitive part of my brain that will always prefer "tech from humans" over "tech". Given that the very teleology of cloud computing is digital & ephemeral resources, having an actual human face associated with it makes it tangible…
>If you do something luridly stupid and rack up costs, AWS and GCP will probably cut you a break. [...] Everyone does. If the incidents that made the rounds here in the last few months are any indication, they'll start out insisting you pay no matter what. You'll then have to write a blog post about it, post it to Twitter, HN, and Reddit, get a couple hundred comments expressing anger at the provider, and wait for so…
If you have to be cloud, do dev in one cloud and test/prod in another.
I know, I know, easier said than done.
Whenever I've had to water new grass seed I've always been surprised by my water bill.
>If you do something luridly stupid and rack up costs, AWS and GCP will probably cut you a break. [...] Everyone does. If the incidents that made the rounds here in the last few months are any indication, they'll start out insisting you pay no matter what. You'll then have to write a blog post about it, post it to Twitter, HN, and Reddit, get a couple hundred comments expressing anger at the provider, and wait for so…
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I’m curious what sorts of things were on the checklist. I wonder if it’s something they will share proactively?
It's been a few years, so I'm going off of memory, but it was mostly best practices stuff (enabling Cloudtrail, rotating older keys, etc). Anything to ensure that once the attackers no longer had access, removing/monitoring anything that would have longer term implications.
I really, really wish there was just a way to put a hard limit on how much a cloud could charge me. I am never going to want to spend 200k of my personal money on some project on a cloud. Never. I don't even want my ant-based basket viewing project simulator to cost me 1 thousand dollars because it went viral and all clouds overcharge for bandwith. Just let me put in a limit.
E.g. when my limit is reached to they remove the database, along with all backups, and all objects on S3? Since storage is billed, it should also be stopped when the limit is reached, right?
I think in practice among companies paying most of their revenue, there’d be zero interest in this, while it would be a lot of effort to implement.
This is really something specific to hobby projects, which just shouldn’t be using those “unlimited potential cost” services.
> and may only come within tens of dollars of accurately predicting your water bill. Whenever I've had to water new grass seed I've always been surprised by my water bill.