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Re: Ask HN: What was your biggest startup fail?

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7 months for a Python build? That's brutal. What was the root of the problem? Deps, codebase size, or something else?

We had a team of data scientists who were developing models (in the abstract sense) that we would then train on specific and then deploy as concrete models. This was just before the BERT paper came out, we were working with a few different models, sometimes the classical models from scikit-learn, sometimes these were https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolutional_neural_network for text trained with a GPU. Ideally I wan…

Would you mind sharing what you personally use in place of pip now?

Re: Ask HN: What was your biggest startup fail?

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Two stories:

1. Shortly after I started working on Tarsnap, I was introduced to a "serial entrepreneur" who expressed an interest in getting patents on Tarsnap's technology and licensing it out to other companies. I wasn't interested in doing this myself -- I wanted to provide the world's best secure backups, not sell patent licenses -- but I agreed that if he covered all the costs and paid me an up front fee plus a share of royalties then he could resell the "spinoff" IP. Distracted me for about a year before he backed out. And then he asked me to pay for the money he had spent on lawyers (I laughed).

2. About five years after Tarsnap launched, I got a phone call from a YC company saying they were interested in "working together with me". The conversation went around in circles for half an hour before I figured out that was a euphemism for them being interested in acquiring Tarsnap.

Re: Ask HN: What was your biggest startup fail?

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Didn’t sell to a potential acquirer because it was an all stock deal. Acquirer itself got acquired a year later for a lot of money.

That just feels like applying random chance to your hindsight though. If they'd have bought you that deal might not have happened?

It is applying random chance to hindsight, absolutely. They were bigger than us and growing fast, and we’d have had no impact likely, but it was not the wrong decision when we made it I think. It just worked out poorly to the tune of millions so I count it as a fail. Sometimes you make the right call with the information you have and it turns out badly in hindsight.

But, we still did alright. Worse things have happened to me. After a certain personal tragedy happened to me a few years back, I’m now in a place where I am only minimally bothered by anything that doesn’t involve someone dying.

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I was in 2nd Year of my engineering. as many engineers before going to the college i used to make computer games on C++. Games caught my interest really early, because thats what is really fun and challenging in programming. One day while making a ping pong game, i thought what would happen if both the sides computers will play? who will win? from that i developed a programming game, in which you need to write algorithm for your battleships to destroy other battleships. You could try really good algorithms to test them for eg. min-max, monte-carlo tree search, RL, Deep learning etc.

Since i was in India, people here do programming for the sake of coursework or to get jobs. Really passionate people are difficult to find.

I tried to launch the product in my college, but sadly no one would want to play it. The game was really challenging to grasp at the beginning, I also pitched it to my professors to include it in the course curicullum of AI, they liked the idea, but refused it by saying it will be an overhead for the students to learn first about the algorithm and then about the Game API.

for an year i dejectedly saw that not everyone is as passionate as you are. I found no market for my programming game. If it would have launched somewhere in US, it could have been better, since MIT has such a kind of competition in which students needs to make the bots. it is not that programming games have no market, there are games like : Battlensakes, coderOne etc. but their market share is very less.

I learnt the lesson the easy way i guess, because i had a safety net since i was still in college, and had a job from the following year.

But then i really understood about product market fit, which i used to ignore while they taught in entrepreneurship classes. If anyone wants to see how the game looked : https:\\aiplaygrounds.in . I have revamped by business idea and working on something else.

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This is from work over 30 years ago on our garden simulator by my wife and me. Being too ambitious (and perfectionist) at the start with product plans for software. Building a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) instead which prioritized essential needs would have engaged customers years sooner in our case and provided valuable feedback for deciding on future directions for new features or changes. A couple of people early…

Sorry, off topic but a garden simulator like animal crossing or garden simulator like planning a garden? Because if it's the second one, please try again. There are ZERO user friendly garden planning software options that account for climate, soil type, partner plants, and rotation schedule.

Thanks for the reply. It is not quite either, but between the two it is more of the second (planning). It actually focused more on learning the science of gardening than planning an actual garden in a way you might use for your own backyard. https://www.gardenwithinsight.com/ "The Garden with Insight garden simulator is an educational simulation that uses weather, soil, and plant growth models to simulate a simple garden in an open-ended microworld setting. You can plant vegetables and grow them to learn more about plants, the soil, the weather, gardening, and science."

It was in Delphi Pascal for Windows, and I would still like to port it to the Web with JavaScript/TypeScript at some point.

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