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Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I never lived in a country where the delivery guy just leaves your shit out in the open. Why is this common in the US, when in most "safe" EU countries, people would never trust such a practice? Seems like an anti-consumer practice enforced by industry on the consumer. No, packages should not be stolen from people's porch. But realistically, it's very hard to stop this crime of opportunity.

This appears to be stolen from a PO Box which is secured with a lock. The thieves defeated this.

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

I think it heavily depends on what local district attorneys policies are. Police may not see a point in taking a risk by apprehending someone just for them to be released hours later anyway. Not a huge fan of US police departments in general but this isn't necessarily all on them.

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Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

It is insane the amount of money police officers and their pension funds get paid. Yet??

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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> stolen out of her mailbox at the Los Alamos Post Office All the P.O. mailboxes I've ever seen have locks. What's going on? Was the thief actually a USPS employee?

Aren't there two locks? One, a master keyed lock for post office employees to fill the boxes and the other is individually keyed for customer access. Perhaps the crooks obtained a master key by either bribing an employee, cloned one, or stole one. Back in high school a friend was obsessed with the MTA subway and had a neighbor who was an MTA employee. He somehow convinced them to hand over their keys which had both t…

It depends on the setup.

Ideally, they're in a building and back-loaded, in which case, they might not even be closed on the backside. Because access to the back is secured.

But for other types of boxes, like outdoor boxes, there's usually another lock along the frame that causes the entire front (or back, depending) to swing open so the mail carrier can efficiently deliver to multiple boxes.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

They could catch so many bad drivers (carpool lane violations and speeding mostly but lots of others too) but I see them do a sting about once every 3 years and then zero enforcement in between.

We as a society gave up on enforcing traffic rules. There are a few small towns that go overboard, then Wild West driving. Nothing in between in the Bay Area ime.

I’m getting angry. I’ve come across two wrong way drivers recently. And a woman walking on the high way at night and when I called they said “oh yea we’ve been getting calls” and that was it. Meanwhile the only time I’ve ever seen beat policing in my area was one time to question a minority walking. Apologies for venting.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I never lived in a country where the delivery guy just leaves your shit out in the open. Why is this common in the US, when in most "safe" EU countries, people would never trust such a practice? Seems like an anti-consumer practice enforced by industry on the consumer. No, packages should not be stolen from people's porch. But realistically, it's very hard to stop this crime of opportunity.

This appears to be stolen from a PO Box which is secured with a lock. The thieves defeated this.

Thanks, should have read the article. I stand corrected.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

I think it heavily depends on what local district attorneys policies are. Police may not see a point in taking a risk by apprehending someone just for them to be released hours later anyway. Not a huge fan of US police departments in general but this isn't necessarily all on them.

One contributor is the fact that law enforcement rarely strikes but used their FOP and “union” organizations to slow, or sandbag work as a negotiation tactic. With membership that is largely unaccountable the blue wall is a political tool to leverage public funds by threat of crime and alternatively allowing or shutting down private unionization efforts.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-police-union-po...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/us/police-unions-minneapo...

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/06/police-unions-spend...

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/historic...

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

I think it heavily depends on what local district attorneys policies are. Police may not see a point in taking a risk by apprehending someone just for them to be released hours later anyway. Not a huge fan of US police departments in general but this isn't necessarily all on them.

I can see how this would be the natural response to a situation where the DA refuses to prosecute crime. That said, simply giving in to lawlessness is clearly not the answer, and I doubt many cops find this to be a preferable path. It just validates the DA's backwards worldview! How are you going to replace them when the elections roll around, and they're able to argue "I'm not refusing to prosecute anyone! Just look, arrests are way down!" The only way to keep them honest is to continue doing the work and ensuring that the taxpayers have a clear understanding of what is happening.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I've come to believe that acceptance of crime is a choice by officials. Many low level crimes I've witnessed are trivial to catch. For instance, find out where porch thieves like to hit. Plant a package there and park a patrol car there for a few hours and chances are you'll catch someone. Or put in a tracker. A cop can get a bike stolen in hours in the right neighborhoods in NYC. If a youtuber can park their car wit…

That doesn't pay. Pulling over a citizen with a job and citing them for speeding is a much more lucrative use of their time. Both are against the law, so they're doing their job either way. Kind of.

Although as another commenter noted, I've noticed they've become strangely lax about even citing moving violations since Covid. Makes you wonder what they are even doing, then.

Re: Californian fed up with stolen mail sends Apple AirTag to herself to catch thief

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I never lived in a country where the delivery guy just leaves your shit out in the open. Why is this common in the US, when in most "safe" EU countries, people would never trust such a practice? Seems like an anti-consumer practice enforced by industry on the consumer. No, packages should not be stolen from people's porch. But realistically, it's very hard to stop this crime of opportunity.

It depends where you live. I get stuff left by my door or garage or in the mailbox all the time and I would absolutely hate it if signatures were always required or if I had to go somewhere to pick up a package multiple times a week.

I have rarely had things misdelivered and the neighbor has gotten it to me. It's just not a problem in a lot of places in the US.

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