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SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by sumuyuda »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #7
mepian wrote: post #6

Epic could open-source the original engine, like its former primary competitor id Software did with the old idTech engines.

There were some plans to do so a while back: >We definitely can’t open source Unreal Engine 2 or 3, because of dependencies on a large number of external closed-source middleware packages with complex licensing requirements. >Open sourcing Unreal Engine 1 might be possible, but getting the source and dependencies into a releasable state would take a lot of cleanup effort that we just haven’t been able to find time fo…

Epic has some agreement with the old unreal community where people have access to the source and release patches.

https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches

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Post by sandelz »

mepian wrote: post #6

Epic could open-source the original engine, like its former primary competitor id Software did with the old idTech engines.

That would be absolutely great if it were to happen, especially if they'd choose more liberal license such as BSD.

I'm a sucker for software rendering and unreal engine 1 has even more advanced features in that department compared to the original Quake (1 and 2) engines.

Would love to port that to wasm if this ever happens.

There is https://github.com/RedPandaProjects/UnrealEngine but I don't know what are the legalities and such...

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by Pxtl »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #7
mepian wrote: post #6

Epic could open-source the original engine, like its former primary competitor id Software did with the old idTech engines.

There were some plans to do so a while back: >We definitely can’t open source Unreal Engine 2 or 3, because of dependencies on a large number of external closed-source middleware packages with complex licensing requirements. >Open sourcing Unreal Engine 1 might be possible, but getting the source and dependencies into a releasable state would take a lot of cleanup effort that we just haven’t been able to find time fo…

Honestly in an era when so many companies are re-releasing and re-mastering and re-making their back-catalog, I'm shocked that Epic seems to have forgotten their roots.

Where's an Epic Arcade bundle of their 2D masterpieces like OMF2097 and Epic Pinball and Solar Winds? Why isn't Jazz Jackrabbit appearing in half a dozen mascot-themed Super Smash Bros ripoff?

Compare vs Capcom's remakes of all their classic Resident Evil games (Unreal 1 and 2 could get this treatment) and rebundles of all their arcade fighters and beat-em-ups. Or Id's annual rebundling of Quake 1-3 for new generations.

And it's not just big companies like Capcom doing that. How many times has little Croteam re-released Serious Sam 1st and 2nd encounters?

Meanwhile can you even buy UT2004 anywhere anymore?

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by matheusmoreira »

This is incredible! I wonder how they reverse engineered it. Couldn't have been easy.

So many engines are getting the open source reimplementation treatment. I wish them all the success in the world and hope their numbers continue to grow.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by manuelmoreale »

neuronexmachina wrote: post #17
tedivm wrote: post #2

This makes me so happy and brings back a lot of memories. I really appreciate all the effort that video game archivists put into keeping these old games playable.

Yeah, when I saw the screenshot of Facing Worlds the song from that level immediately started playing in my head.

If anyone is willing to set up a server I’m down playing some UT99. I should still have a GOG copy. Such an awesome game.

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by newsclues »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #23
newsclues wrote: post #16

I still can’t believe epic hasn’t released a modern Unreal Tournament game.

They were working on it but then Fortnight made a trillion dollars.

So hire people to finish it?

Re: SurrealEngine: Open-source reimplementation of Unreal Engine with playable UT99

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Post by newsclues »

patmorgan23 wrote: post #25
newsclues wrote: post #16

I still can’t believe epic hasn’t released a modern Unreal Tournament game.

There's a beta from like 5 years ago

I know, but maybe if they want the epic store to be popular maybe release new versions of your classic IP on it?
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