Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is from a movie right? I remember watching it but not the name.
The name of the rose
From the novel by Umberto Eco. With a French director, Sean Connery, Christian Slater, Ron Perlman and more. Great movie.
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#12Bad idea to lick your fingers when leafing through Aristotle's lost treatise on laughter.
This is from a movie right? I remember watching it but not the name.
Is is from a movie and a novel which the movie was based on. Both go by the title "The Name of the Rose". The author of the novel is Umberto Eco.
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#13Bad idea to lick your fingers when leafing through Aristotle's lost treatise on laughter.
Definitely a bad idea!
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#14> "I find it fascinating to know what previous generations thought was safe, and then we learn, oh, actually, that might not have been a great idea to use these brilliant dyes," Weinstein-Webb says. Yep. William Morris was a divil for this, and refused to acknowledge the dangers well past when they were known. I wonder though - in terms of human potential and lives lost, do all of those examples put together come any…
The comparison between historical hazards like toxic dyes and modern environmental issues is a gooood one! The evolution of our understanding of risk and safety.
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#15> "I find it fascinating to know what previous generations thought was safe, and then we learn, oh, actually, that might not have been a great idea to use these brilliant dyes," Weinstein-Webb says. Yep. William Morris was a divil for this, and refused to acknowledge the dangers well past when they were known. I wonder though - in terms of human potential and lives lost, do all of those examples put together come any…
The thing too is that we know better, but we still use those toxic substances because the people who are profiting off it aren't the ones suffering ill effects. Well, at least the petrochemical people flooding the world with microplastics also have it in their bodies.
> Well, at least the petrochemical people flooding the world with microplastics also have it in their bodies.
Hate to smudge your consolation, but the tech is probably there for them to filter their blood now, or it will be soon. [0]
Course, it will be far too expensive for poor people.
Still! At least the microplastics in their brains will be harder to clean! [1]
... Seriously, these people need stopping. They're never going to stop on their own.
0 - https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8929/3/3/28
1 - https://www.smh.com.au/national/human-brain-tissue-made-up-o...
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#16I like painting, and have always liked emerald green: https://www.winsornewton.com/na/articles/colours/spotlight-o...
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#17Fine. I won't eat the books then if they're poisonous.
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#18Something that I've noticed, that I wonder if it could be an useful (although very blunt force) heuristic for thinking about chemicals:
Chemicals with strong effects (e.g. bright colors, the ability to permanently set dye, powerful adhesives and epoxies, breathable waterproofing, etc.) often achieve their effect via strong chemical reactions. Strong chemical reactions have a good chance of being able to interact with your body's chemical reactions and make you sick. Therefore, you should default to handling chemicals with strong effects with caution (e.g. wearing gloves and a respirator if there are fumes).
Of course this is just a rule of thumb. Fruit juice is brightly colored but generally doesn't require special handling. Mineral sunscreen works via physical rather than chemical properties. Etc.
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#19Something that I've noticed, that I wonder if it could be an useful (although very blunt force) heuristic for thinking about chemicals: Chemicals with strong effects (e.g. bright colors, the ability to permanently set dye, powerful adhesives and epoxies, breathable waterproofing, etc.) often achieve their effect via strong chemical reactions. Strong chemical reactions have a good chance of being able to interact with…
Fruit juice also doesn’t retain its color over long periods of time. Good dyes in general are hard to make safely, and we use a lot of dyes in our society.
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#20It didn't seem to be mentioned in the article, but have these covers always been unsafe to handle, or has the problem got worse as the books get older and maybe the chemicals are more likely to leech out or be released as dust etc?
If they've always been toxic, I'm kind of surprised that it wasn't noticed at the time. And presumably, there was a point when we stopped using these dyes. Was that because we knew the risks they posed, in which case why did we lose that knowledge, or was it just that we switched to cheaper processes that just happened to be safer?