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Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by Ringz »

djha-skin wrote: post #109

I have plumbed the depths of mutt, and I have discovered that, alas, graphical email clients fit my needs better. - Mutt/aerc doesn't support windows, an OS many use by preference or requirement (though I have explored this with mutt[2], it's hard getting anything to work in mailcap on windows) - Doesn't support viewing HTML email, a ubiquitous phenomenon - Doesn't support sending HTML email, which is fine until your…

Aerc:

Could probably be built on Windows. You just need Go and make. Betterbird supports MacOS only since a view weeks. My initial suggestions to build it for Mac was denied by the author because of „money“.

Let’s you view html emails. It’s in the article.

I bet moving mails by keystrokes are much faster than drag and drop per mouse. If you use the same folders again and again it even faster. Eg:

  pa = :archive flat # move (think put or paste) mail in the archive folder
  pb = :move Brain # move mail in my Brain.
  pf = :move # move (think put or paste) mail in folder. Next character filters folders.
works out of the box. Configuration is less complicated than mutt (by far)

Works fine with OAUTH

BB is fine but I hate it that I can’t use my own keyboard shortcuts. A ubiquitous phenomenon.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by gerdesj »

djha-skin wrote: post #109

I have plumbed the depths of mutt, and I have discovered that, alas, graphical email clients fit my needs better. - Mutt/aerc doesn't support windows, an OS many use by preference or requirement (though I have explored this with mutt[2], it's hard getting anything to work in mailcap on windows) - Doesn't support viewing HTML email, a ubiquitous phenomenon - Doesn't support sending HTML email, which is fine until your…

"Mutt/aerc doesn't support windows, an OS many use by preference or requirement"

All modern Windows boxes have Hyper-V built in to some extent and you can run a Linux VM. You have OpenSSH natively too. It will take a bit of twiddling to setup a suitable environment but not much.

I use Linux exclusively and prefer GUIs too. I use Evolution against MS Exchange on-prem, for my sins. I also run a set of vanity email domains for friends and family (Dovecot, Exim etc).

I'm not familiar with Betterbird but it is now bookmarked and noted for eval.

One day we are going to have to dump the Exchange box and I look forward to the discussion about what happens next. M365? Nope, or OK - you kids do that and I'll bugger off and do my own thing. Do bear in mind that I've been running the email system for 25+ years (it was GroupWise once) and I am the Managing Director!

In the end you really can replace Exchange with and IMAPD, MTA etc and a calendaring app of some sort.

Anyway, I'm strolling rather rapidly off topic. Sorry and thanks for the Betterbird notes.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by donio »

jackthetab wrote: post #82
Ringz wrote: post #66

Aerc has been my daily driver for a long, long time. I use it with IMAP (GMail and other reasons) but its completely usable with local mail directories. - I have redefined the Aerc key mapping with a set of Vim-like keybindings, since I am too old to learn new keybindings. And I bet now I as fast as possible slashing through countless mails… - I configured Aerc to work properly with Gmail and Imapfilter. - I created…

I'm interested in the Gmail integration. Tried it with mutt and decided I didn't want to spend an afternoon figuring it out. 'Sides, I hear that Gmail is phasing out IMAP. :-?

For GMail sync someone else has already mentioned Lieer which is an excellent tool for robust two-way syncing of emails and tags/labels between Notmuch (and anything that uses it) and GMail. It uses the GMail API so it doesn't rely on IMAP.

https://github.com/gauteh/lieer

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by magarnicle »

Swarming wrote: post #10

I might be missing something but why would you want to use a terminal interface when a GUI is so much easier?

I find neomutt much easier* than a GUI, especially since I can write my emails using vim. But also, since I get a lot of notifications via email, I can do things like bulk-delete by just typing D + [pattern]

*Once configured, which is definitely not easy.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by d99kris »

daft_pink wrote: post #43

I would really love to try a terminal email client with html email parsing. I miss pine.

You could give my email client https://github.com/d99kris/nmail a shot. It does basic html email parsing (leveraging w3m and pandoc) and its user interface is inspired by pine.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by SuperNinKenDo »

Ringz wrote: post #99
jackthetab wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in the Gmail integration. Tried it with mutt and decided I didn't want to spend an afternoon figuring it out. 'Sides, I hear that Gmail is phasing out IMAP. :-?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41324757

Can you point out which part of this is relevant to Gmail integration?

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by necrotic_comp »

djha-skin wrote: post #109

I have plumbed the depths of mutt, and I have discovered that, alas, graphical email clients fit my needs better. - Mutt/aerc doesn't support windows, an OS many use by preference or requirement (though I have explored this with mutt[2], it's hard getting anything to work in mailcap on windows) - Doesn't support viewing HTML email, a ubiquitous phenomenon - Doesn't support sending HTML email, which is fine until your…

despite the questionable politics of the author, I use mutt-wizard, and using its configs, a simple "v" instead of "o" will open the mail in the open web-browser. I've found this more than acceptable for reading html mail.

I don't use it for work, only personal use, though, so ymmv.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by stavros »

wgrover wrote: post #67
daft_pink wrote: post #43

I would really love to try a terminal email client with html email parsing. I miss pine.

I miss Pine too. I could read/file/delete scores of plaintext emails in seconds using single keystrokes. Every email client I've used since Pine has been better at dealing with all the stuff we've bolted on to email (HTML, attachments, calendar invites...) but none of them have been as efficient at the core tasks of email as Pine was.

What sort of keystrokes? The Fastmail web interface uses single keystrokes for interacting with mail, which is very handy.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by goku12 »

JulianWasTaken wrote: post #53

I haven't tried to use this, but if someone has, how does it compare to alot ( https://github.com/pazz/alot ) which is the best TUI mail client I've used?

I haven't given alot much attention yet, but one feature that sets aerc apart is its focus on git-email workflow. Viewing, applying and sending patches is much easier with aerc. Remember that the author of aerc (Drew Devault) is also the developer of sourcehut.

Re: Aerc: A well-crafted TUI for email

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Post by ffsm8 »

Ringz wrote: post #102
jackthetab wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in the Gmail integration. Tried it with mutt and decided I didn't want to spend an afternoon figuring it out. 'Sides, I hear that Gmail is phasing out IMAP. :-?

> 'Sides, I hear that Gmail is phasing out IMAP. :-? Uh? Really?

Pretty sure that's fake news. To my knowledge, they've only deprecated authentication with your regular password via IMAP, you'll now have to at least create an app password.
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