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Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by 999900000999 »

warden_2003 wrote: post #73
999900000999 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for creating Firebase! It's really the definition of an managed database/datastore. Do you see InstantDB as a drop in replacement ? To be honest I don't want to have to worry about my backend. I want a place to effectively drop JSON docs and retract them later. This is more than enough for a hobbyist project, though I imagine at scale things get might not work as well.

If you only need simple dropping and collecting back, maybe you should consider about AWS S3 or Supabase storage.

Ohh, I still need a database, I just need the JSON doc format.

Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by pbreeze »

ochiba wrote: post #69

Sounds conceptually similar to Zero: https://zerosync.dev/ I haven't looked in detail yet — what are the main differences relative to Zero?

I think it would be difficult to compare at this point, as there aren't many details about Zero outside of the blog on their landing page. I believe it's very much in early (but active) development.

From that blog: > We are working toward a source release in summer 2024 and an open beta EOY 2024.

Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by serial_dev »

stopachka wrote: post #45
serial_dev wrote: post #38

Do you have clients for Android, iOS, Mac apps, Flutter, Rust? If not, how hard do you think it is to implement a client for an additional language?

The core client SDK is pretty small -- it's about 10K LOC. We want to get the core abstractions right in JS-based environments, than expand. We really like Mitchel Hashimoto's post about how he built Ghostty on different platforms [1] [1] https://mitchellh.com/writing/zig-and-swiftui

So if I understand it right one option you seriously consider is... after the JS client feels right, you write a "core" language in C/Rust/Zig, then "wrap" it with Swift, Kotlin, and Dart?

Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by ochiba »

codersfocus wrote: post #74
ochiba wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Co-founder of PowerSync here. Would love to hear what you would like to see improved in PowerSync :) Thanks!

The docs for React Native. I had to piece together how to do stuff from the code examples and a YouTube video tutorial because they're pretty sparse with information, and missing a cohesive tutorial that could get me setup with CRUD locally. Plus the initial setup process from the npm page, which itself was notable for how much was required. I haven't attempted to setup the backend yet, so that's my feedback so far.

Thanks, appreciate the feedback.

Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by ochiba »

pbreeze wrote: post #82
ochiba wrote: post #69

Sounds conceptually similar to Zero: https://zerosync.dev/ I haven't looked in detail yet — what are the main differences relative to Zero?

I think it would be difficult to compare at this point, as there aren't many details about Zero outside of the blog on their landing page. I believe it's very much in early (but active) development. From that blog: > We are working toward a source release in summer 2024 and an open beta EOY 2024.

Makes sense. FWIW, there are some more details here: https://replicache.notion.site/Introducing-Zero-8ce1b1f184aa...

Re: Show HN: InstantDB – A Modern Firebase

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Post by dudus »

stopachka wrote: post #40
breatheoften wrote: post #25

What's the short summary of how the authorization system works for this? One of the things I find quite nice about firebase is the quite powerful separation between the logic of data retrieval / update and the enforcement of access policy -- if you understand it you can build the prototype on a happy path with barely any authorization enforcement and then add it later and have quite complete confidence that you aren'…

> What's the short summary of how the authorization system works for this? We built a permission system on top of Google's CEL [1]. Every object returned in a query is filtered by a 'view' rule. Similarly, every modification of an object goes through a 'create/update/delete' rule. The docs: https://www.instantdb.com/docs/permissions The experience is similar to Firebase in three ways: 1. Both languages are based on C…

While it seems inflexible at first this system is surprisingly capable and provides great DX, one of the best things about working with firestore.
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