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Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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The entire App Store is still within the marketing department, which is all you need to know about how the App Store is run. This reorganization is internal to marketing, and the leaders are all part of that team.

That's not terribly surprising; the AppStore is about discovery, which essentially is marketing.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

#42
post #14

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I don't follow. How does withholding apps from the Mac App Store make it stronger, and what do you mean by "powerful enough to extract its 30% tax"? Legit question, I just don't get what you're saying, no argument.

Apple won't pull the trigger and ban 90% of apps to profit on the other 10%. Apple may pull the trigger and ban 10% of apps to profit (more) on the other 90%.

Honestly i don't think i care lol. I'd be pissed, but i'd move to back Linux.

If they're that hostile to me as a user i'd prefer they just show their hand sooner hah.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

#43
post #16

The entire App Store is still within the marketing department, which is all you need to know about how the App Store is run. This reorganization is internal to marketing, and the leaders are all part of that team.

But the marketing team says "sEcUrItY"

>Loses head at the command of a middle-eastern dictator while getting noods exposed because there was an unclicked URL sent to my phone

EDIT:

Sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos_phone_hacking_incid...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/12/16/nso-a...

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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That's the only thing stoping Apple? Not the fact that if they did that every mac out there would become unusable?

I wonder how many people this actually applies to. Is it primarily developers who need non-app store software? Is there still a sizable number of people using Macs for other work (like school or design) like in the old days?

I would say about 95% the software on my MacBook have nothing to do with the App Store. Whether for work, research, normal student stuff.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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I see your point but also note that they have already done something similar with the M1. Pre-DMA and Epic lawsuit, I could potentially see them drop support for installing apps outside their app store. All they would really need is Adobe to agree and the rest would just have to follow, similar in some ways to the ARM transition. (With the notable difference being that one was free for developers aside from the cost…

What did they do similar with M1? I don’t believe they changed anything about app installation in relation to their arm processors.

I meant that they made developers make changes to their apps. The obvious difference is that this change will cost the developers more money. The point was that developers didn't simply abandon Apple when they switched to ARM. I guess this point may be obvious now but IIRC there was a lot of discussion around if Apple would be able to make developers make native ARM versions of their apps or if they would just abandon MacOS (although perhaps I am remembering wrong here). The point is that they made "every mac out there unusable" to an certain extent, (although obviously there was a Rosetta 2) and it didn't matter because developers followed Apple's direction and made them usable again by making ARM versions of their software.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

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Apple won't pull the trigger and ban 90% of apps to profit on the other 10%. Apple may pull the trigger and ban 10% of apps to profit (more) on the other 90%.

Honestly i don't think i care lol. I'd be pissed, but i'd move to back Linux. If they're that hostile to me as a user i'd prefer they just show their hand sooner hah.

Apple is a two (three?) trillion dollar company.

Their interests are different.

Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

#47
post #5

Since we're here I have a suggestion to offer. When submitting your mobile app to the App Store there is a checkbox/option somewhere asking you to if you want to distribute the app to Mac as well. DO NOT do that. If enough people do that we'll end up having a Mac app store walled garden powerful enough to extract its 30% tax.

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Re: Apple splits App Store team in two, introduces new leadership

#49
post #36

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Can you site any references to back that up? AppStore came out of iTunes and has always been part of services under Eddy Cue.

From the submitted article: > Apple Fellow and former marketing SVP Phil Schiller will continue to oversee both of the new divisions. From Apple: > Phil Schiller is an Apple Fellow, responsible for leading the App Store and Apple Events." https://www.apple.com/leadership/phil-schiller/ https://9to5mac.com/2024/08/21/app-store-vp-departing-apple-... > According to his LinkedIn, Fischer currently holds the title of “Vi…

None of this supports your claim that these roles are "within the marketing department". Phil Schiller is a _former_ marketing VP, a position he left 4 years ago. Carson Oliver has been business management roles his entire tenure at Apple. Ann Thai worked in apps marketing, but moved to product 4 years ago. These execs have marketing experience, but none of them came directly from marketing roles and one has no marketing background. Fischer, the guy who's leaving, hasn't worked in marketing since 2010.
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